Stellaris

[Remus]

Genetik modifikasyon yapabiliyorsun habilitatily için veya terraform hangisi hpşuna giderse techte orda ilerle.

WE konusunda hem fikirim ayar lazım.

Marruder ile diplomatik ilişki koymaları lazım veya ne biliyim açık arttırma sistemi gibi bir şey. Valla açıkcası herkes bana yolluyor Maruderlerini :)

[arcane]

onlar guzel cozumler ama daha sonrasi icin. simdilik robot bonuslarini degerlendirmeye calisiyorum. politikaya karismiyor olmalari da avantaj haline gelmis. civilization'daki avoid growth gibi bir ayar yok galiba. son care olarak farm disable edecegim. (edit: olmadi. depolanan yiyecekle buyume devam ediyormus)

marauder icin acik arttirma cok iyi fikir. keske oyle olsa. hem de asgari ucretle calismamis olurlar.

[Remus]

Populutıon iyi bir şey 2.0 da. Kafayı fractionlara fazla takmışsın.

İstemedigin tipi purge edebilirsin :)

[Apis]

Demir yumruk ile yönetilen polis devleti bir imparatorlukta war exhaustion nedir arkadaş? Kaldı ki çok avantajlı olduğun, hatta düşmanı haritadan silebileceğin zamanlarda dahi whitepeace olabiliyor???

Bir de o gemilerin yavaş hareketini geçtim, eskiden saldırının nereden geldiğini, geleceğini tam kestiremezken şimdi bildiğin Galactic Civilization'dan ve diğer onlarca uzay stratejisinden ne farkı kaldı? Choke point yap koru? Bu mu uzay, bu mu strateji?

Oyunun 2.0 kadar her haline kadar kefilim ama bu olmamış.

[Redeagle]

Ben şu halini henüz oynayamadım ama choke pointler yaygın olarak istenen featurelardan biriydi. Önceden herhangi bir yere defans kurmanın anlamı olmuyordu. Filosuyla en hızlı yıkım yapan kazanıyordu. Savunma yapılabilsin diye eklendi.

[Remus]

Sorun white peace ve war ethausion

[Redeagle]

Remus said:

Sorun white peace ve war ethausion

Başka bir şey istesen olacakmış. Devlerin konuyla ilgili getireceği değişim:

https://twitter.com/Martin_Anward/status/968137319600574464

[Remus]

Eu4 'deki stap hit sistemi istemiştim. influence hit vereceklerdi 0 olunca kabul edecektin otomatik olarak.

[NolaxThensbane]

Bugün ilk savaşıma girdim. Anlamadığım Aı'nin 9k filosu var benim 4k gelip darmaduman etmesi gerekirken bir ileri bir geri gidip durdu. Kenardan kenardan aldım sistemini ele geçirdim. Wtf AI?

[Remus]

Yok hocam doğrusu o yeni sistemde 4-5 claim atıp dalip white peace :)

Jump Drive nasil kullanıyor?

[Law]

NolaxThensbane said:

Bugün ilk savaşıma girdim. Anlamadığım Aı'nin 9k filosu var benim 4k gelip darmaduman etmesi gerekirken bir ileri bir geri gidip durdu. Kenardan kenardan aldım sistemini ele geçirdim. Wtf AI?

Forumlarda WE sisteminin işlenişi anlatılmış. Navy Cap önemli olan. Yani navy capın 100 olsun ama 10 tane gemin olsun, düşmanın 70 navy capı olsun ama 20 tane gemisi olsun ve savaş sonunda seni dövse ve diyelim 10 gemi kaybettin düşman ise 6 gemi kaybetsin o daha çok WE penaltısı yiyor. Çünkü senin gemi üretilme potansiyelin daha yüksek deyu.

Belki ondan gelip dalmadı sana navy capı düşük diye.

2 x (Naval Capacity Lost / Total Naval Capacity) formülüde bu WE nin.

[massosoit]

Food stored cap im doldu 200 e dayandı, bunu harcayabileceğimiz veya dönüştürebileceğimiz biryer, birşey varmı?

[Remus]

Onu 5000 yap policylerden space horde bazen saldırmak için rüşvet istiyor ona verirsin.

[massosoit]

ama anladığım kadarı ile cap i arttırmak pop growt u negatif etkiliyor ?

[Promenader]

cap dolana kadar + fooddan gelen bonusu alamazsın ama dolduktan sonra devam.

[massosoit]

Observation Post yapamıyorum, bilgisi olan varmı

[Feamer]

sistem yıldızında-güneş- maden falan varsa yapılmıyor, veya senin sınırların içindeyse, gerçi değişti galiba sınır işi...

[massosoit]

Saçma olmuş, anladığım kadarı ile sınırların dışına yapılamıyor.

[massosoit]

Synthetic Dawn DLC si gelmiş,
peşine de 2.0.2 patch i tabii.

Patch Notes

# Feature

* You are no longer forced to make peace at 100% war exhaustion, instead your Influence and Unity monthly gains are reduced to 0 and a happiness penalty is applied to all Pops until you make peace
* Occupation no longer contributes to War Exhaustion, but instead is displayed as a separate factor in war overview, to make it clearer what you need to do in order to enforce demands
* War Overview no longer attempts to calculate a winner in battles, but simply displays war exhaustion gained by each side
* Marauder raiding fleets are now neutral to everyone except their intended target so they won't wreck everything in their path when they go a-viking
* Fixed Gestalt Consciousness empires using Trading Hub starbase module and Offworld Trading Company starbase building, they now use Resource Reprocessor and External Acquisitions Area (name/flavor difference only)
* It is now possible to test-fire a World Cracker on habitable (but uninhabited) planets in your space
* Added tier 5 Dark Matter thrusters that can only be gained by scavenging Fallen Empire ships
* Transcendent Learning ascension perk has been added to the game, and it increases leader level cap and empire leader cap
* Megastructure resources are now affected by country modifiers
* Ship sizes now have a default combat behavior and will prefer computers of that type if auto-generated (Picket for Destroyers, etc)
* Added some more logic for making sure ship auto-complete doesn't switch your desired combat role
* Space stations now use the country_mult modifier instead of the tile_mult modifier and no longer get the tile_add modifier
* When a new ruler is elected, the previous ruler that was voted out of office (if alive) will now attempt to take over the job that was opened up by the newly elected ruler, assuming the leader class matches. Back to the mines, Mr. Ex-President.

# Balance

* Reduced War Exhaustion per ship and army killed
* Militarist ethics now gain -10%/-20% war exhaustion gain instead of army damage bonus
* Technologies that reduce claim cost now also decrease war exhaustion gain
* You now get war exhaustion a bit slower while fighting a Liberation War
* Increased energy upkeep of all Starbase sizes by +1. Outposts now cost 1 energy maintenance
* Base unity income increased from 1 to 2
* Base tradition cost increased from 56 to 100 (does not affect the cost increase from number of traditions)
* Tradition unity cost per system reduced from 2% to 1%
* Corvette/Destroyer/Cruiser/Battleship build speed techs now also reduce build cost of that ship type by 5%
* Habitats now have their own fortress building (Security Zone) that is effective at unrest reduction but provides only a few defense armies and no FTL inhibitor or bombardment protection
* It is now possible to mod away serviles & pre-sapient traits if you have completed biological ascension
* Egalitarian ethics effect on faction influence increased from +15%/30% to +25%/50%
* Corvette Focus trait now requires Destroyers tech (as it's hardly a 'focus' if it's the only ship type possible)
* Scout admiral trait reduced from 20% to 10% speed (so Gale-Speed is faster)
* Admiral now always dies when last ship in fleet is destroyed and there are no disengaged ships to move to
* Drone Mining Lasers are now a bit worse against hull and a bit better against shields
* Broken and shattered planets spawned on galaxy generation can now have deposits
* Thrusters now cost different amounts of minerals and give different amounts of evasion based on which ship size they are for (corvette thrusters are cheaper and add more evasion, etc)
* Reduced cost of hiring Marauder leaders to 2000 energy
* Having an enclave in your border now gives +1 opinion per year instead of +1 opinion per month, as the latter made all other opinion boosts rather meaningless
* Increased opinion bonuses for ally of ally and mutual rivals
* Increased opinion penalties of allying rivals
* Tributary wargoal is now a bit easier to enforce
* Combat computers now give evasion_mult instead of evasion_add
* Asteroid Sighted can no longer pop after the first 50 years, to avoid it happening in large sprawling empires with limited time to respond
* First pirate event now tells you the system where they are based
* Increased time limits of all Special Projects requiring a ship in orbit (new minimum is 3 years)
* Federation fleet is now limited to an absolute max naval capacity of 500
* It is now possible to get the gateway activation tech if you know any other empire that has the technology
* When a Federation enforces ideology on an empire, that empire now gets opinion boosts with the entire federation

# Civics

* Citizen Service civic now also increases unity output from fortress and strongholds by 1
* Aristocratic Elite civic now gives +2 leader cap and +2 governor max level instead of +4 leader cap and -50% leader recruitment cost
* Distinguished Admiralty civic increases leader cap by +2
* Driven Assimilators now have the 'Assimilate' total war CB
* Purifier and anti-Purifier CBs no longer require neighboring status (was confusing and unintuitive to players)
* Nationalistic Zeal civic now gives -10% war exhaustion gain instead of +1 rivalries
* Free Haven now gives xeno migration attraction instead of migration attraction

# Traditions

* Expansion adoption effect now gives +50% colony development speed (down from +100%)
* Galactic Ambition expansion tradition now gives -20% starbase upkeep instead of +2 starbase capacity

# Ascension Perks

* Shared Destiny effect on integration cost reduction changed from -50% to -75%
* Nihilistic Acquisition can now be taken by purifier-style empires

# Edicts

* Drone Campaign food cost increased from 100 to 500
* Learning Campaign food cost increased from 50 to 500
* War Drone Campaign food cost increased from 50 to 500
* Patrol Drones planetary edict is now available to all Gestalt Consciousness-empires

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# UI
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* Added building descriptions to traditions that unlock buildings
* Starbase upgrade cost and Module/Building building cost now properly show modifiers affecting them
* Renamed Growth Speed to Pop Growth Speed to be clearer
* Added the correct icons for megastructures and starbases in the control-groups UI
* Contacts view has been improved
* Government view now displays ruler & heir skill stars
* Heir tooltip no longer displays skill effects (as heir has no skill effects until they become ruler)
* Clicking your ruler or heir name in Government View will now allow you to change their name and/or title
* Galaxy resources now show the amount actually collected, and the tooltips give you the list of applied modifiers
* Resource modifier no longer show decimal values
* Removed pointless decimals for starbase caps, planet caps, naval command cap, and naval capacity
* Added the country resources add and multipliers modifiers to the budget tab
* Improved how the speed modifiers are shown in the starbase upgrade time tooltip
* Added a more clear warning that deleting templates will also disband ships
* Fixed several instances of a Status Quo peace being called a White Peace in peace messages
* Alert for High War Exhaustion is now more helpful
* Traits that are already present in species can now always be re-added while in process of modifying template
* Aura tooltip now differentiates between system-wide friendly auras and fleet-only friendly auras
* Changed the current value of template designs in fleet manager to show the current amount of ships including ones that only are scheduled for retrofit

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# AI
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* AI now activates some of its anti-crisis logic when under threat from a mid-game crisis like the Great Khan
* AI no longer picks shared destiny unless it has at least one vassal
* Added separate definitions for mid-game and end-game crisis factions, with slightly different AI logic to respond to them
* Fixed another cause of AI endlessly inviting player to the same war

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# Modding
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* Added a country modifier for war exhaustion gain (when multiple countries are involved on the same side in a war, the averaged modifier of all of them is used)
* add_threat effect now once again takes country scope (generates threat scaled towards whole target empire)

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# Bugfix
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* Fixed system/colony tradition costs being multiplied on each other instead of additive
* Fixed additional potential out of sync issues in multiplayer
* Afterburners can no longer be installed on defense platforms, as lovely as it was to uselessly vent fuel in to space as a gesture of contempt to environmentalists
* Deep Space Black Site now requires you to own a planet in the system, instead of erroneously using the same trigger as trading hub
* All Satrapies are now properly liberated when the Horde fractures into the Diadochi
* Fixed bug where the planet class transition effect started too late
* Fixed adopting the Domination tradition tree not unlocking certain diplomatic actions for eligible Machine Empires
* Fixed auto-exploring science ships doubling up (exploring the same system simultaneously)
* Fixed a CTD. Could sometimes try to merge invalid fleets.
* No longer possible to hold Casus Belli on non-empire factions such as Crises and Marauders
* Galactic core visibility is now lifted when you explore all systems adjacent to it, instead of just one
* Fixed empires not being able to see primitives in other empires' space due to lack of comms spread
* Ships merging in to fleets directly from stations now behave properly
* Fixed scientists not dying when their science ship was destroyed in battle
* Fixed raiding stance not having bombardment graphics on planet being raided
* Fixed tooltips for status column in contacts view to reflect accurately what they represent
* Fixed raiding not always abducting pops when it should, due to bad habitability calculation
* Fixed raiding stance not having the correct pop limit (would abduct at >6 instead of >4 pops)
* Fix a freeze when trying to upgrade technologies more than their max levels
* Fixed Determined Exterminators starting with a farm building
* Construction is now paused for starbases in combat
* Fixed force ethics not correctly calculating a government for the defeated empire's new ethics
* Enigmatic fortress now properly disables even after saving and loading the game (status was not properly saved)
* Iron Fist governor trait is no longer available for Hive Minds, making it disabled for all types of Gestalt Consciousness-empires
* Fixed being unable to land armies on a colony seized by Mutants
* Fix bug where queued items wasn't moved to the new fleet design when a design upgrade becomes available
* Fixed Slaving Despots being far too common an AI personality because of wrongly scripted weights
* Disables the bypass cache when calculating the distance to capital modifier, hopefully solving an OOS issue
* Fixed a crash when quitting to the main menu in the middle of a war
* It should no longer be possible to try to spawn a star system with an invalid star class
* Fix crash when comparing the relative power of a country that has no power
* Prevented fake country from trying to initialize a technology module it does not have for some reason
* UNE now uses correct name list when spawned in Commonwealth games
* Fixed revolting slaves greedily snatching the capital planet when they're not supposed to
* No longer possible to force ideology on Fallen Empires
* Fixed Omega Theory tech sometimes not appearing at the end of the Horizon Signal chain
* Fixed an event-spawned science ship not getting a hyperdrive
* Fixed planet unrest modifiers not being properly recalculated
* Fixed Ascension Theory tech not being available to players who do not own Apocalypse

[eregorn]

massosoit said:

Synthetic Dawn DLC si gelmiş,
peşine de 2.0.2 patch i tabii.

Abi o delece geleli kaç ay oldu biliyon mu?

RELEASE DATE:
21 Sep, 2017

[massosoit]

lol, :) çok utandım. 2 gün oldu başlayalı oyuna yeni gördüm nebilim. atlamışım

[eregorn]

bende alalı bir hafta oldu olmadı zaten (oyundan bahsediyorum. dlcden değil. 45saat olmuş bile. Ne imparatorluklar yıktım, ne cumhuriyetler kurdum... Biraz para olsun dlclere abancam

[NolaxThensbane]

enerji/mineral dengesini bir türlü tutturamadım

Ek olarka fleetinizi ne şekilde donatıyorsunuz var mı tavsiye

[Feamer]

rakibe göre yapmak lazım

misal, rakip roket ve uçak ağırlıklı gidiyorsa aa şart, kalkan ve zırh durumuna göre ayrı ve uygun silah seçilebilir...

ben gemilerin 3-4 farklı varyasyon olarak yapıyorum, ya tam bomber/fighter, ya uzun menzil kinetik, ya büyük silah roket, arada değişimler oluyor ama böyle karma bir filo bana daha avantajlı geliyor

diğer bir tarz ise, tek gemi modeline karma sistem yapmak, her silahtan eklemek olabilir ki sayı az ise silah sistemlerinin efektif olması bakımından faydalı olabilir

[Namessar]

bir 4 aydir oynamiyorum, ama her major release de bir seyler fixlenirken baska bir ciddi sorun cikip duruyordu. sogumama etkendir. bir oyunun temel dinamiklerinin vanilla versiyondan beri bu kadar sik degismesi aliskin oldugum birsey degil.