Total War: Rome 2 #2

[Yabgu]

Cuce said:

spyla korunan orduya hiçbişi olmuyo zaten

En yaşlı kralım 90 yaşında öldü. Parthlarla takılıyorum şu an, ilk yönetici olan Arsaces'i (zaten parthları kuran ve hanedana adını veren adam) iyi korudum spy ile etrafında da diğer birimler eksik olmuyordu. Ama ne yazık ki 10 yıldız yapamadım, koruyan ve oyunun başında zaten var olan Nur-ayya mıdır nedir spy da bi 80 falan yaşına kadar geldi.

Her ikiside 7-8 yıldızda öldü. Ach'ları açamadım :(

Arsaces

Bu da Arsaces'ten iki sonra imp olan Arabistan fatihi Sin-Nasir

Bunlar da Bergamalı lavuklar. Kalleşler benle ve Mısırla ittifak idi ama savaşta Mısırı seçti! İşte böyle kevgir yaparlar adamı!

TÜM YANCILARA ÖLÜM :D

[Norak]

Komutan said:

Seed yenilenmiyor olabilir.

oda mümkün ama garip şeylerde var mesela bu 25 load içinde hadi bide şuna basayım diyip poison diyorsun %65 ile çat diye indiriyorsun adamı sdf

bide 1 yıl= 4 turn olarak oynadığım için benimkilerde dahil tüm ajanlar full level hep.

[Yabgu]

Modladın yani yıl olayını. Peki teknoloji muhabbeti ve ölümler nasıl, sıkıntı yok değil mi?

[Norak]

yok mod değil benimki, oyunun kendi dosyasını editlemiştim ben daha o modlar çıkmadan oyunun ilk haftası, tüm twlerde mümkün.

researchler bitti gibi 437. turnde 1 yada 2 tane kaldı bitmeyen.
herkes 4 kat fazla yaşıyor işte. generallede 7-8 rank oluyor savaşıyor ise, daha fazlasını görmedim sanırım ama baya bi süredir savaşmadım pek (savaşsam oyun bitcek çünkü lel) ondandır.

[Komutan]

Norak said:

oda mümkün ama garip şeylerde var mesela bu 25 load içinde hadi bide şuna basayım diyip poison diyorsun %65 ile çat diye indiriyorsun adamı sdf

Seed yenilenmese bile farklı bir şey yaptığında başka bir sayıya gider zaten.

[jowu]

İç savaş çıktı yendim senatoyu da hani imparatorluk falan olamadım :(

[Alexi_Septimus]

Patch 5 geliyor birazdan, 50 turnden uzun oynanabilecek hale gelecek oyun sonunda sanırım.

Patch notes for Total War: ROME II Patch 5 (7765.464566)


Campaign

Improved Campaign AI decision-making speed when considering local forces prior to settlement attack
Fix to problem the AI interface received stances that were not up to date, when called to accepting a war declaration help request, or deciding whether to invite allies to a war.
Improved responsiveness of tabs in the Trade and Finance panel in Campaign mode.
Fixed a crash when loading an auto-save game.
Various campaign optimisations including: Fog-of-war update (improves frame rate when moving units, improves end turn times in games where the player has many allies) and Improved frame rate when lots of units are on screen.
Fix for rare crash when loading a Campaign save game.
Fixed various rare crashes during battles caused by unit card sorting.
Battle

The video memory footprint of battles has been reduced by up to 250MB.
Left-click and dragging units during battles is now more responsive.
Fix for slow down / performance hit when selecting AI siege equipment in the battle setup menu.

Gameplay Improvements

Campaign

Campaign AI now encourages factions to form allegiances more over time based on personality, perceived threat and existing balance of relationships the faction holds.
A new function has been added to the diplomacy screen, which allows the user to select AI factions, and then mouse over other faction icons on the map to display their relationships.
The chances of the AI betraying their allies has been increased, since it used to help them too often when a betrayal was a more appropriate action.
Allies that have made a decision to join a war, have that decision enforced at the Campaign AI to ensure consistency. E.g. To prevent Satrapies from joining a war and betraying their overlord at the same time.
Improved the AI’s consideration and use of payments in diplomacy
Garrisoned armed citizenry now reinforcing their army standing just next to the settlement they are Garrisoned in.
Fixed satrapies not recognising that they no longer have an overlord in some cases when they cease to be a satrapy.
Fixed a pathfinding data error that allowed paths to cross directly from beach to river on the Campaign map.
When a settlement is blockaded on the campaign map, a fix has been made to prevent the player from queuing more siege equipment in the construction queue than you are allowed.
Reduced the chance of AI armies standing close to the players army on the Campaign map in Forced March stance, allowing the player to ambush them.
Armies can no longer be garrisoned in a settlement and in Forced March stance at the same time, which led to an ambush battle outside of the settlement when it was attacked, and the winner not capturing the settlement.
When handing over a region in civil war, the armed citizenry in that region are now refreshed immediately, to prevent the player from recapture the settlement with no resistance from within.
During a multiplayer coop campaign, the client and host could both make decisions when attacked by the AI. However the user interface did not always display the correct choice. This is now fixed.
Rebels, Greeks and Gauls are now unable to capture the Bovianum settlement from the Samnites during the Prologue Campaign.
Objectives are now listed in The Invasion of Samnium chapter of the Prologue Campaign.
Converting an army in a port settlement to the port docks will no longer break it out of muster stance allowing it to recruit while moving .
Fix for Lode Stone technology not applying correct speed bonus to ships.
Battle

Improved gates so they don't open so prematurely for routers during battles.
Fix for Cavalry units not able to perform flaming arrow attacks on buildings.
Autonomous siege engines now have an ammunition limit during battles.
Fixed bug where routers appeared to walk in battles.
Added display of phase timers to Ability buttons in battles.
A unit tooltip will now display to indicate when units are withdrawing during battles.
Added a new Persian minor city battle map variation to the game.
Improved the in-battle AI's interactions with a Greek City battlefield.
Improved AI interactions with the walls in Hecatompylos (small) battle map.
Adjusted deployment zones in Greek Port (Antioch) map, to stop the defender from being able to deploy outside of the city.
Fixed a bug in the Antioch (large) battle map, that made traversable areas of the map untraversable to units.
Adjusted deployment zones in Carthago city map to stop the defender from being able to deploy outside of the city.
In Multiplayer, spectators can now see both the attackers and defenders units regardless of whether they're within line of sight (both in the battle itself and on the battle radar.)
Improvement for the timing in when pike men switch between pikes and swords during combat.
Re-jigged pike attacks slightly so that they don't end when the enemy run away, but instead, re-intercept.
Fixed bug in Ambush visibility which made unleashing war dogs invisible while the handler unit is hidden, causing the dogs not to be seen by the enemy.
Fixed certain capture points that were not assigned to the correct buildings in various siege maps
Smoothed out the deployment zones across all siege maps.
Fixed disembarking points in minor Barbarian port battle map, allowing units to disembark from ships correctly.
A wall piece that is partially underground in the small Barbarian City battle map has now been made to be un-dockable for siege equipment.
Fixed the collision on some large rocks in the Carthage battle map to prevent units from passing through them.

Balancing Changes

Campaign

Barbarians and Easterners can now also build military ports in minor settlements.
Increased campaign cap for the limited naval units, so more of them can be recruited.
Battle

Added new missile block chance for shields, and some new shield types added to enable better balancing.
Adjustments made to the Carthage chapter 6 difficulty.
Rebalanced the ranged damage effects for the Numidian Technology Tree.

Usability Improvements

Campaign

Agent success changes now reflects the fact that some actions (for example Assasination) require critical success to eliminate the character. A tooltip has been added to showing the sucees/failure precentage breakdown.
Fixed a bug in Multiplayer Campaign mode, where the player couldn't move their camera on the campaign map after spectating in another players' battle, if the player had the Overview Map opened before the battle.
Added faction icons to attitude / factors tooltip in Diplomacy to make it clearer whose relationship is being shown.
Added message events when a satrapy declares war on its overlord in Campaign modes.
Fix for Legendary difficulty auto-save occurring before dilemmas are decided in Campaign mode.
Fixed the cancel vassal diplomatic action which was not working correctly.
Fix for menus "sticking" when moving the mouse from a submenu button to the Encyclopaedia.
Fixed a number of formatting issues in the Multiplayer Campaign faction list user interface.
Durations are now displayed on effects in regions / factions where applicable.
Added experience and bonus icons to queued unit cards, so they are more consistent with recruitment and recruited units.
Fixed hull upgrade bonus icon not showing on recruitment cards.
When ordering an agent to perform an action against the enemy, if the player left clicks and holds on one of the action boxes, and then moves the cursor the action box will no longer disappear.
In Campaign modes, if the keyboard shortcut to end the turn is replaced by any other key, other than then default [ENTER], the new key will now end turn as expected.
Passive abilities are now coloured differently on the Unit Info Panel in Campaign modes to make them clearer.
Fixed duplicate faction icons appearing in Diplomacy, when war declared with satrapies.
Solved an issue that prevented the settlement looting panel from appearing, when Campaign Overview / Tactical Map was open.
The Forces tab in Campaign modes is now refreshed / updated faster in response to different actions taking place.
When returning to the campaign from a battle, besieging army's action points bar no longer doubles in length and extends beyond it's limit.
When an ally attacks a provincial capital in coop Campaign the other player will no longer be able to add and subtract siege equipment to the construction list during battle deployment.
Removed spaces between building upgrade icons in the Building Information panel to avoid info panel flickering in Campaign modes.
Improved the yellow selection highlighting on selected factions in the Campaign Faction Selection screen.
Added the option to delete key configuration files form the load key configuration dialog in the settings menu.
The "Battle Realism Mode" checkbox now greys out correctly when Legendary difficulty is selected in Campaign mode.
Consecrated Ground buildings in Campaign now show which culture they belongs to.
The "No Equipment Available" message on the pre-battle user interface in Campaign Mode is no longer displayed, if the player is the defender in a siege assault.
Added functionality to post-battle espionage icon so user can now see details about the conquered settlement.
Added missing tooltips to character skills on faction screen.
Fixes to the Campaign user interface to make objectives status text fit correctly within the available space.
When on the Campaign Map, if an Agent has no more action points and tries to perform an action on an enemy settlement, that action will become queued. If on the next turn the player captures that settlement that, upon ending turn the agent will no longer play the animation for the action on that now owned settlement.
When building Construction is paused in Campaign modes, a pause icon is now displayed to represent this.
Additional army names added for Germanic, Nomadic, Greek, Pontic, and Gaulish factions for more variety.
Fixed issue in the Prologue Campaign where the player couldn't declare war on the Greek States via move options and had to do it via diplomacy.
There is now a chance for Campaign characters to spawn with a wife in their household.
In Campaign, when selecting an opponent's settlement, then hovering the mouse over buildings in an owned settlement in the same province, the building information panel is now correctly displayed instead of being hidden.
Added an arrow icons to the Public Order entry in province dropdown, to indicate when Public Order is going up or down.
Solved issue that prevented the settlement button from being updated, when the province details panel is shown in the Campaign user interface.
The Conversion option is no longer displayed when the building is damaged on the Campaign map.
Fixed irrelevant attrition immunities being shown for ships in campaign on the Unit Info panel.
Remove misleading tooltips from unit cards in the unit exchange panel if they cannot be exchanged in Campaign modes.
Female character portrait / heads are shown when a "Subject Gains Notoriety" event occurs in Campaign, and the event involves a female character (e.g. the Vicious Words event).
Fixed a bug, where some Campaign Event Messages were automatically marked as read.
Dragging the mouse from a province owned by a certain faction, for instance Rhodes, into a sea region which they do not use, will no longer display their faction icon next to the contested status for the sea region.
Fixed un-openable event messages which sometimes appeared in Campaign modes.
Successful bribe attempt now shows correct family name on the message.
Mission event titles are now consistent between event messages and the event message list panel.
The correct cursor icon is now displayed when an Army at sea is selected and order to attack a garrisoned army in a port settlement.
The "opportune failure" part of agent action event messages will now only display for the faction that the agent belongs to.
After progressing through the Prologue from Chapter 1 to Chapter 3, exiting out of Chapter 3 at the start will no longer cause Chapter 3 to appear locked on the main menu.
Character Rank Up events now display the Character Type and new rank.
Fixed the window size of the games Launcher in certain desktop resolutions.
Fixed bug where placing the mouse over areas of attrition on the campaign map, would make the tooltip look like the area was an enemy.
Tooltips don't show ambush chance for fleets anymore.
Fixed tooltip height, when tooltips don't have any text in them.
Tooltip on Campaign map no longer stops showing ambush chance when placing the mouse over an attrition area.
Fix for number of available units is not displaying on mercenary recruitment cards.
Fixed an inconsistency with Silanus' name between Prologue Chapters. Throughout Prologue 2, Silanus was identified as 'Gaius Fulvius Silanus'. However during Prologue 3, he was identified as 'Gaius Silanus'.
Various minor text fixes in Campaign mode.
When the player doesn't have enough money to perform an agent action, and orders an agent to perform a certain action on an enemy, the list of options to perform will now be greyed out immediately, instead of only when the cursor is moved over the options.
Fix for incorrect hyperlink in the faction panel and incorrect tooltip on damaged buildings.
Battle

Added unit numbers to Unit Cards. These can now be enabled in battle interface options ("Unit Card Man Count" check box).
Added option to game settings menu to enable/disable aide de camp (Battlefield Advisor), so the player can now disable this panel from ever appearing.
Naval units are now grouped together depending on their unit type more often in deployment. This prevents them from colliding into each other so much at the start of a battle with large armies and large varieties of ships.
Fixing for invisible elephants making it appear like elephant riders were floating in the air during battles.
Fixed issue where dragging out units on the battlefield could get stuck on screen after deselecting the unit.
Chat toggle button is no longer greyed out in frontend when players set their state to "Ready" in a Multiplayer Battle or Campaign lobby.
Updated the Carthago radar image to better represent the terrain in the battle.
In a Multiplayer Lobby, when a team leader with one AI army on their team switches to the other side, the players Steam avatar no longer remains attached to AI army.
Fixed checkbox for "Battle Realism Mode", so it's no longer greyed out and un-ticked when the player has just quit a Legendary difficulty Campaign.
Fix for “Unit Size” option being reset to last saved setting when going hosting multiplayer battles.
Fixed the "Select All" functionality in battle setup screen ([CTRL]+[A] keyboard shortcut)
Various fixes for the Change Team button being in incorrect state in the battle setup menu.
The Battle HUD with double line Unit Cards will shrink to single line as units are removed.
The Spectator slot in a Multiplayer Lobby can be taken out of team 2 now if there is space there, and not on team 1.
Updated buildings on the radar map during battle for the "Armavir" battle map.
Improved boarding user interface in battles.
Added some user interface to remind player to use deployables during deployment, when they still have deployables un-deployed.
Reduced chance of siege towers moving away and leaving men behind if the user clicks to drop equipment, and orders it to be re-manned as troops are disembarking.
Added tooltips for ability effect icons on Unit Banners in battle, and made these icons larger.
Fixed transport ship icons not disappearing from their Unit Cards once the units disembarks
Fixed a large number of floating objects and clipping issues across a variety of siege maps.
Fixed floating buildings and battlefield props in an Egyptian Port battlefield.
Visually improved Greek Port battle map.
Removed some rocks from a port in the Antioch battle map to prevent ships passing through them when disembarking.
Changes made to the disembarkation areas in the large Carthago battle map to prevent ships from passing through the naval port buildings.
Adjusted beach landing / disembarkation areas in the Athenia battle map, to prevent ships going too far onto the land.
Adjusted beach landing / disembarkation areas in the Greek minor port battle map, to prevent ships going too far onto the land.

Known Issues

Changing the game's Texture Quality option during a campaign or a battle may cause the terrain to appear black. This can be avoided by changing this option with the Game Settings in the main menu, and will usually stop happening after starting the next battle or re-loading your campaign. This will be hotfixed in the near future.
The Mod Manager is currently only partially localised, so most compatible with English. We aim to localise this fully in the near future.

[jowu]

A bundle of news today: The Seleucid Empire faction is FREE for all players, available now. We’ve also released Patch 5, which delivers a huge number of tweaks and fixes to the ROME II experience. What’s more, we’ve announced, and enabled, Steam Workshop and Mod Manager support today.


ohaaaaaaaaa

[pronoit]

tam da tatilden sıkılmışken. biraz da selucidlerle akalim

[jowu]

patch 600mb

steamwork süper oldu ya vay anasını

[Norak]

ahah ajan şeylerini değiştirmişler, artık gerçek % leri gösteriyor, iyi olmuş.

[jowu]

selucidlerin zorluk bayaa kolay gibi hehe blizzard oyunu gibi son gelen op oldu

[pronoit]

zor değil çünkü ekonomisi aşiri iyi.
bir de gariptir a.i diplomasiye çok ilgi duyar olmuş her turn birileri ally oluyor birileri savaşa katilim mi falan diyor cidden renk gelmiş o konuda
yalnız şöyle birşey var aklında bulunsun OP falan ama Media düştüğü gibi tüm doğu ile karşi karşiya kaliyorsun ve mısır zaten natural exp'in olduğundan 40. turn gibi falan oyun eğlenceli oluyor

tabi benim oyunda makedonlar ve pontuslar anadolunun batısını ve kuzeyini aldi. Tüm doğu ile savaştayim. Mısır ile savaştayim. Media ilerlemeye başladı doğuda ama bu sefer de core topraklarını kaybetmeye başladi.

Bakalim ben çok beğendim selucid'i. Çizimler falan da iyi olmuş. Ama işte keşke ünitlerde de böyle spesifiklik olsa.

Neyse Rome 2 gerçekten güzel gidiyor.

[jowu]

aynen pontusla bi de atinayla askeri ittifak oldum, bunlar geldi sordu ben de aldım bikaç bin paralarını hehe.

mısır'a dalmaya başladım ben 10. turn'de falan. batlamyus abi İskenderiye'de biraz tırsıyorum ondan şimdilik bi ordu daha tamamlansın öyle giricem. Sürekli barış öneriyolar üstüne 10bin falan ödüyolar.

[Feamer]

ledandry oynuyorum, ekonomik bitiriyim diyorum, 4 seferdir bitirtmediler, 20 kişi ile ticari ilişkin olması isteniyor ama satrap/bağlı devlet im bile yeri geliyor antlaşma yapmıyordu...

[Law]

Ticari antlaşma neden yapmıyorlar onu anlayamıyorum. İkimizinde işe geliyor. Adamla savaşda değilim, düşmanı ile herhangi bir ilişkim yok yinede red ediyor.

[Norak]

o zaman senin sattığın mallara adamın ihtiyacı yoktur büyük ihtimalle, ya kendisi üretiyordur yada başka yerden alıyor olabilir. import/export ettiği şeylere bakınca belli olur.

[Feamer]

onada bakıyorum ama pek işliyor gibi gelmiyordu

[pronoit]

önce non-aggression pact kuracaksın o da iki ülkenin güç dengesine bakiyor. (böylelikle ikili ilişki puanınız artacak )

ondan sonra trade sorarsan olma ihtimali çok daha artiyor

yani olay sadece ekonomik çikar olarak düşünme. siyasi ve güç dengesiyle de ilgisi var.

Çok güçlü bir devlet olursan mesala

dur vassalin olayım diyen elemanlar bile olabiliyor.


ayrıca o vassal yaptığın ülkeler sana sadık olabilir ama senden memnun olmayabilir mesala o tür olaylar da var.

[Caladorn]

Bugün atina ile yeniden başladım. ilk turdan sparta ile ittifak kurup makedondan ayrıldık. 3. tur makedonlar bana savaş açtı. ordan roma 5. turda spartaya savaş açtı falan, evlere şenlik oldu ortam.

mod olarak; short campaign için http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?625564-Shorter-Campaign-Mod-(Updated-to-Patch-5-and-CA-Mod-Manager)
bunu buldum; victory contidionları yarıya düşürüyor. 100 turn oynayamadım hiç şimdiye dek baydım her defasında, bu sefer bitiricem umarım.
hele son oyunumda rome ile vedi vidi vici kasıyordum civil war'ı bitirdim hiç yenilgisiz, auto solve yapmadan kurdum imparatorluğu, workshop geldi kullandığum mod(lar) kafayı yedi, tabi benim oyun da gg... abv CA

[Umuruk]

O değil de kıyıdan döndüm.Siz bu oyunu oynarken harbiden zevk alıyor musunuz ? Bugün gidip satın almayı düşünüyordum.Dedim dur demo olarak bir indirip kurayım 20 dakika dayanabildim.Batırmışlar seriyi

Turlar hep böyle uzun mu sürüyor ? 500 tane devlet var.Kamera açısı için ek bir seçenek göremedim.Haritanın dibine sokmuşlar resmen.Biri beni ikna etsin kötü olmadığına soğumak istemiyorum total wardan :/

[Caladorn]

Şahsen mtw 2'den beri her tw oyununa biraz bakıp kapatırdım,
buna herşeye rağmen devam ediyorum.
Modlar sağolsun, harika bi community var. önceki total war'ları oynadıysan biliyorsundur zaten twcenter'i. Hemen herşeye mod yetiştiriyorlar. zoom out mu istiyorsun buyur mod hazır http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?618636-Splenyi-Better-Campaign-Camera-(Release-1-1)-(14-09-2013)
mtw 2 için bugun hala mod çıkıyor be kardeşim...

tl;dr oyun idare eder, yapımcı şirket baya uğraş veriyor, 10 numara community.

bu arada 60 dolar veresin yoksa, gg'de biri 60 liraya falan satıyor dlc içinde olaraj. tanımam etmem ama 861 işlem gözüküyor %100 falan.

[Sam]

bütün total war'ların herşeyin cıcığı çıkana kadar oynadım, medieval 2'den bu yana çıkan tek gerçekten iyi total war.

100 sayfa yazdık neden öyle. :p

[Umuruk]

Normalde steam kullanıyorum alış veriş içinde Türkiye satış fiyatı 80 lirayken gidip 60 dolar vermek pek mantıklı gelmiyor.O yüzden d&r'a doğru yola koyuluyordum.Dur bi indireyim dedim.Şuanda acayip ayrım noktasındayım ama madem öyle diyorsunuz ^^ Paticiğin oyun tercihlerine güveniyorum

[Feamer]

tw sevip şu oyuna kötü diyenlerin anca kozmetik kaygıları vardır,

oyunun eksikleri ve hatalı yanları olabilir ama "bu totalwar" değil demek hatalı bence, zira "total warın" tillahı bu oyun,

totalwar, yüzlerce farklı birim ve devlet demektir. ve bu devletleri seçip, 3d olarak taktik haritasında kalabalık savaşlar yapmaktır.

bakıyoruz bu oyuna, devlet var, birimler, tarihi gerçeklikte, ve şahane tasarımda yüzlerce birim var, devletler tarihi gerçeklikte kültürel ayrıma gidilmiş ve onlarca var. savaşlar, 10.000+ birim gerçekçi coğrafyada savaşa biliyorsun...

ve bunlar serinin diğer oyunlarına kıyaslanamayacak seviyedeler.

tw bunlar demekti, adamlar daha iyisini yaptı, kıyas götürmez şekilde. ama kalkıp aile ağacı yok, turnler uzun sürüyor vb. değişik argümanlarla oyunun "tw" olmadığı ve içine edildiğini savunulunca insan ister istemez, değişik duygular içine giriyor

ayrıca, ilk rome ve medieval 2 ilk çıktığında, turn geçme daha uzun sürmüyor muydu?

dediğim gibi eksikleri var, adam adamlar yine eşi görülmemiş şekilde çalışıp düzeltiyor, artı olarak isteyebileceğin her şey için neredeyse mod var ve dahası gelme şansı 10+ sene için çok falza...


bu arada pike phalakslar tam kıvamına gelmiş, hoplitler olması gereken şekle gelmiş, tam "tw" olmuş :)

uzun bir süre mod kullanmayı düşünmüyorum ama şunlar güzel olmuş:

Colored Unit Cards
Hellenic League Mod