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Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)


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Öne çıkan mesajlar

evet, klon meselesi biraz muğlakta kalan bir konu. bunun asıl nedeni de george lucas'in gelgitli vizyonu, daha önce yazdığım gibi ep-2 kadar hiç klon olayından bahsedilmemişti. prequel yapımlarda bu tip devamlılık hataları her zaman karşılaşılabilecek bir şeydir. ayrıca şöyle bir şey var;

"boba had a connection to stormtroopers. i sort of built him out of the stormtroopers, and i knew stormtroopers were clones. exactly what that relationship was i hadn't really established yet. i knew boba was a clone, but i didn't know how all of that fit together. i knew that the clones were made out of a bounty hunter, and when i got to this story, i thought "well, gee, the best bounty hunter is boba fett. and rather than him maybe being a clone, he could be the originator of the clones." most of the pieces were there, but i actually put them all together in this one."
--george lucas

"it wasn't until i started working on this script that i decided to make boba the son of the original clone. before he was just another clone who was for whatever reason had sort of broken loose from the stormtroopers. i didn't really go into detail at that point, even in my mind or in the back story about any more of it other than that they were connected but early on the stormtroopers were meant to be clones."
--george lucas

"throughout as we go through the movie there's all little funny moments like jango bumping his head because in star wars one of the stormtroopers bumps his head on the door as they leave the control room on the death star and i thought wouldn't it be funny if that's a trait that jango has. when he puts his helmet on and everything he can't really see that well and so he's constantly bumping his head and that trait gets cloned into all the stormtroopers and that's why they keep bumping their heads."
--george lucas

yani kafasını çarpan asker için lucas klon diyor.
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_Rave said:

nasıl daha mantıklı bulabiliyorsun abi maulun kılıcından şunu?

iki taraflı kılıç-staff-mızrak vs.gayet işlevsel.ayrıca hilt de ona göre uzun.isterse tek bir tarafı kullanıp uzun hiltin verdiği reach ilede bir avantajı var strüktürün.

bunda kapak açmak ve kendini kesmek dışında bir işlev yok.

görsellik göreceli ona birşey demiyorum.


İki taraflı bir kılıç hiçbir zaman normal kılıç kadar etkili olamaz, çünkü ikinci taraf sebebiyle kılıçla kendini kesmemek için uzun mesafeye hamle yapamazsın. Karşıdaki tek taraflı kılıcı olan adamın efektif menzili çok daha uzun olur. Eğer tek tarafı kullanılırsa o kılıcın çift taraflı olmasının gene bir işlevi olmuyor. Ancak çok yakın mesafede bu yeni kılıç için söylediğime benzer şekilde kılıçlar kilitlendiğinde rakibin ayaklarına hamle yapmak için kullanılabilir.

Ama ben bunlara takıyor da değilim. Mantıklı olsun diye değil güzel görünsün diye yapıyorlar. Güzel de görünüyor bence.
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Istari said:

evet, klon meselesi biraz muğlakta kalan bir konu. bunun asıl nedeni de george lucas'in gelgitli vizyonu, daha önce yazdığım gibi ep-2 kadar hiç klon olayından bahsedilmemişti. prequel yapımlarda bu tip devamlılık hataları her zaman karşılaşılabilecek bir şeydir. ayrıca şöyle bir şey var;



Klon Savaşlarından aslında ilk filmde(Epısode 4) bahsediliyor, fakat olayın ne olduğu açıklanmıyor. Daha sonra ilk EU serisinde Thrawn stormtrooperları klonluyordu, ama bunu farkedince şaşırıyorlardı, yani normalde stormtrooperlar klon değil.

Tabii EU artık geçerli değil. Fakat belli ki yeni serideki yaklaşım da stormtrooperların klon olmadıklarıı şeklinde.
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Isyanim var.

Kult R2-D2/R4 astromech dizaynini degistirmis, yuvarlanan sacma sapan birsey yapmis.
Speeder dizayni irenc.

Hele o lightsaber dizayni. Blocklamaya kalkarsan direk olarak kabzasi parcalanir aletin, su tarz bir dizayn kullansalar daha iiymis:



Ama yok iste JJ Abrams, icine edicek serinin.

Daha Teaser'dan sogudum.

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DarKRideR said:

LathspeLL said:

Abi hastirin gidin ordan, çöp diyorlar ya! piskopatsınız yemin ediyorum.


hepiniz çöp olacak derken de ben savunuyordum lan filmi asdfsda

Senaryo hakkında bilgi geldikçe filmden soğuyorum. Abrams'a sonsuz güvenim olsa da bu rezilliği onun bile kotaracağını hiç sanmıyorum...


bu başlığın spoiler free olanını açın pl0x
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LathspeLL said:

Amma taktı millet kılıca, manyak mısınız nesiniz anasını satayım.

Bence kılıç harika olmuş, oooh batsın size uzuvları...


kendi içinde tutarsız...

bir kere dövüş tekniklerine aykırı

ayrıca adı light "saber"

light "broadsword" değil

gerçi adam "haçlı" da olabilir, crusader....

http://forum.paticik.com/thumbnails/471/fa4/4fa/a40/49d/3e8/3ce/906/698/c94/4d_450xNULL.jpg
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Since the conclusion of JEDI, Luke has managed to find a breakthrough in the Force which has made him the most powerful Jedi of all time, although he doesn’t fully trust himself with the power that he now holds.

- Due to the intensity of Luke’s powers, he doesn’t have full control over them, often causing accidental disturbances.


- As a result of the powers he has at his disposal, Luke has put himself into a self-imposed exile, fearing that he may end up following in his father’s footsteps and become swayed by the Dark Side.

- Both the new hero and new villain of the saga will visit Luke with the aim of using his powers for their own agendas.

- Whereas the original movie initially had us believe that there was a crazy old hermit called Ben Kenobi, it’s said that Luke will be a tad unhinged and erratic here.

- Chances are we’ll be seeing some of the older faces of the saga, as Luke will have uncontrollable visions of former friends and family members who are no longer alive. He’ll also have premonitions about events in the future, as well.
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Luke brought a cataclysm to Tatooine soon after Return of the Jedi after he visited Anakin’s birthplace and for whatever reasons it’s changed him. It’s an even more desolate place now, there are meteor craters everywhere, you get the point, at first you won’t know that it’s even the Tatooine you’re looking at.

>Luke goes mad because he discovers he can’t control himself. He destroys everything around and kills people with his powers, unconsciously. He leaves his friends and lives in solitude on Mon Cal in a fortress of some old sith lord because the dark side that clouds the place puts him in chains.

>Luke is now sees the future, sees the past (that’s why the “flashback” scenes were filmed) and he’s basically a mentally unstable god.

>Nobody wants to have anything to do with him, but Han’s son (Adam Driver) wants to use Luke’s power for his own evil means.

>Luke has a premonition about the destruction that Han’s kid will bring in the future and decides to kill him.

>Han is obviously mad as at Luke.

>There’s a huge fight. It’s everyone vs Luke (Luke has his father’s red lightsaber here, so it’s obviously visually implied that he’s the bad guy). This fight is epic

>”But Luke isn’t the villain! But everybody thinks he is! Oh no, such a twist! Such darkness! It’s like ESB all again!”

>Han kills Luke, because Luke allows him to, “he trusts him”.

Luke will not die. It’s the other way around.

There is a fight at the end. Luke wants to kill Driver and Han steps in. Luke then kills Han which brings Luke back to his sanity. Han with his dying words begs Luke to let Driver live, to trust him that everything will be alright and the he won’t succumb to the Dark Side.

Luke trust Han and does not kill Driver – which will be a big mistake as we will see in Episodes VIII and IX.
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