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Helal vallahi Erol Mutlu abimize, çatıya uzaylı gemisi falan düşse el koyup hurdacıya okuttururdu herhalde...


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Virginia Eyaletinde 2 doktor ofislerine düşen meteoru Smithsonian Müzesine bağışlamak istemişler ama ev sahibi Erol Mutlu olaya son anda el koyup "mülküme düşen taş benimdir, veriniz" şeklinde bir mail atmış doktorlara...



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WASHINGTON – An out-of-this world rock has become the center of a down-to-earth dispute over who its rightful owner should be.

The tennis ball-sized meteorite plummeted through the roof of a Virginia medical office just after dusk on Jan. 18, the same time as people reported seeing a fireball in the sky. It plunged through the ceiling of an examination room and landed near the spot where a doctor had been sitting a short while earlier.

"I'm the most likely person to be sitting in that place where it hit," Dr. Marc Gallini said. "It just wasn't my time, I guess."

He and fellow practitioner Dr. Frank Ciampi say their first thought was to give the rare find to the Smithsonian Institution, which offered $5,000 for it. Within days, it was sent to the National Museum of Natural History for safekeeping.

The doctors are worried, though, that their longtime landlords plan to stake their own claim to the space rock. The collectors market for meteorites can be lucrative.

Gallini, who has run his family practice in Lorton, Va., since 1978, said he notified his property owner, Erol Mutlu, of plans to hand the object over to the Smithsonian, which holds the world's largest museum collection of meteorites. Gallini says he got Mutlu's permission. Later in the week, though, Mutlu sent the doctors an e-mail warning that his brother and fellow landlord Deniz Mutlu was going to the Smithsonian to retrieve the rock, Gallini said.

He wouldn't share the e-mail exchange with The Associated Press, but The Washington Post reported that Erol Mutlu wrote that "it's evident that ownership is tied to the landowner."

"The U.S. courts have ruled that a meteorite becomes part of the land where it arrives through 'natural cause' and hence the property of the landowner," the e-mail said.

Deniz Mutlu later appeared to back away from the claim, saying the family was making no such demands and the meteorite is safe for now at the Smithsonian. He added, however, that he didn't know how long it would remain there.

A lawyer representing the landlords would not comment Tuesday.

The doctors hired their own lawyer and demanded the Smithsonian not release the meteorite until the ownership question was resolved. The lawyer plans to ask a court to rule.

"We really want this to end up in the right place," Gallini said. The doctors plan to donate the money from the Smithsonian to Haiti earthquake relief, he said.

The Smithsonian won't comment on ownership and said in a statement that it will "retain possession of the 'Lorton Meteorite' until a legal owner has been established."

The Smithsonian collection includes about 15,000 meteorites; of those, 738 were gathered shortly after they fell from the sky. The Lorton meteorite came from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter, curators said.

It has a blackened outer surface from burning through the atmosphere, said Tim McCoy, a mineral sciences curator at the Smithsonian. Inside are flecks of metal and thousands of tiny rocks containing "the primitive stuff left over from the birth of the solar system," he said.

That material allows scientists to look back about 4.6 billion years, McCoy said.

The last meteorite known to strike a building was in New Orleans in 2003, said Linda Welzenbach, the museum's meteorite collections manager. There were other finds that year in the Chicago area.

Space rocks can fetch thousands of dollars from collectors. Meteorite hunters descended on Washington's Virginia suburbs to look for other remnants of the Lorton meteorite.

One was Steve Arnold, co-star of the new Science Channel TV show, "Meteorite Men." Arnold estimates the Lorton meteorite could bring $25,000 to $50,000 on the open market, unless more pieces turn up. But he said Tuesday that none turned up from his search around the doctors' office.

Meteorites have been the subject of legal disputes before. In the early 1900s, the Oregon Supreme Court ruled a 15-ton meteorite belonged to the landowner on whose property it likely landed, not the person who found it.

The doctors' attorney Marvin Miller said Virginia law differs and favors the tenant.

As of Tuesday, the land owners had made no formal demands, but Miller said he would soon ask a court to decide.

"That's the fairest way to deal with things for everybody's sake," he said.
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said:
"The U.S. courts have ruled that a meteorite becomes part of the land where it arrives through 'natural cause' and hence the property of the landowner," the e-mail said.


Böyle bir yasa varsa adam haklı yalnız.
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hahaha ulan aç gözlülük ne. 50.000$ a bunu koleksiyonculara vs iteleyebilme ihtimali var ise ve yasalar mal sahibinin diyorsa adam tabi kovalayacak. paticik ahalisi dolarlar altınlar içinde yüzüyor herhalde 50.000 a burun kıvırır olmuş
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Uzaydaki hiç bir şeyin sahibi yoktur vs gibi bi yasa yok mu, yani gidip ay benim, jupitere 10cmlik top attım o da benim olmasın diye, yani diyebiliriz ki taş uzayda iken aslında kimseye ait değil, önemli olan onu bulmak. Ama diğer yasa da eğer birinin arazisine inerse, doğal sebeplerden dolayı araziye ait olabilen madenler gibi arazinin sahibine aittir diyor, o da tamam zaten artık uzayda olmuyor dünyaya ait oluyor. Ama meteor da adamın toprağına indikten sonra birisi tarafından gidilip alınılmamış, içinde doktorların yaşadığı yapıyı delip içeri girmiş, yani koltuk televizyon gibi yapının içinde oturan kişiye ait olan eşyalardan birisi olarak görülmesi gerekir bence, ama mesela evin içinden geçmeden bahçeye inseydi, adamlara ait olmazdı.
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E o mantıkla kiracının eşyalarını da alsın, onlar da dışarıdan içeri geldi, bitanesinin faturası eksikse nereden alındığını kimse bilmiyorsa ev sahibine ait sonuçta onun evi.
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