yeni patchle ilgili..

[trathias]

so here’s a more detailed description of what’s to come.

Open RVR changes:

From now on, there will be no VP, there will be no more Domination timer. there will be no more waithammer!

Capturing a zone is as “easy”, as capturing your enemies keep. that’s it, that’s all there is to it. you don’t need to stack scenarios to earn VP, you don’t need to wait 2 hours because there’s no enemy online. you just capture the enemy keep.

ahhh but that’s changed too. no longer will you be able to just run up and pound on the enemy keep door with all of your people. in fact, that’s a decidedly bad idea, and here’s why:

On flying into a contested zone, you will land in your keep. remember, enemies will land in their keep too…
Doors can only be harmed in two ways, the ram, and the new Skaven Rat Ogre.
Keeps will have all of the defensive siege weaponry required from the very beginning. and you won’t have any offensive weaponry at the start.
But how can we get a ram, or offensive siege weaponry? and why do we want siege weaponry anyway? it sucks!!!

No, it used to suck. siege weapons will now deal around 4k damage (before mitigation).
You gain offensive siege weapons and rams by upgrading your keep. this is accomplished by gathering resources from battle objectives.
And what about that? what’s with resource gathering? how does it work?

BO’s have no safe timer, and no lockdown timer. you can flip a BO to your realm at any point.
Once a BO is yours, interract with it to generate your resource carrier. he’s kind of like the sappers in city sieges.
Defend him until he reaches your warcamp, and you’ll gain resources for your keep. If the enemy kill him, they can steal the resources for their realm!
The amount of resources you gain per carrier, will scale with the underdog system.
Resource carriers upgrade with your keep. at rank 1 they gain armour, at rank 2 they become mounted.
What else do i get as my keep levels up? well.. at rank:

Resource carriers gain armour.
Resource carriers gain mounts.
Your keep gains offensive siege weapons, and a ram. Offensive weapons can be picked up by anyone, and taken anywhere! you could even use it to take/secure a BO.
More offensive siege weapons spawn, Aerial Bombers become available.
More siege weapons, and more Aerial Bombers become available.
Now. it’s importent to note at this point, that siege weapons can only be destroyed (or so we gather) by other siege weapons. they can also be sabotaged… but more on that in a second. Keeps now need to be taken in a specific way. there are no more NPC’s in a keep, except for merchants. instead there is a flag. to capture that flag you MUST:

take down the outer door. without taking down that door, you cannot ressurect your troops (if attacking) while inside the walls.
take down the inner door. again, without taking it down you cannot ressurect from inside if you’re attacking.
interract with the flag for 30 seconds. 30 seconds is a loooooong time, and it’s very easily interruptable. you must make sure you kill ALL your enemies before attempting to capture the flag.
remember, defenders will keep respawning in their keep (not their warcamp) until the inner door is down. once the inner door is down, unless they’re ressurected, they respawn at the warcamp. taking keeps is going to be tough!
So what about them arial bombers then? they sound cool! well, they are! the only “limitation” to them, is that they fly in a set path (presumably to stop people lolling all over a zone). they drop bombs that deal some hefty ground target aoe damage (blob up, i dare ye!). and you can choose to parachute down from the bomber, into the enemy keep! any class can parachute in. but remember, until that door goes down, you cannot ressurect in there. it’s no mans land, it’s ugly, but damn it’s fun!

So, what other changes are we going to be seeing? well quite a few… firstly there will be a new microtransaction system implimented. i should note right now that from what we’ve seen, and been told, NONE of these transactions will give any actual advantage over enemies. it’s all vanity stuff, like how your mount looks, being able to change your characters appearance. that kind of stuff. the only thing i’ve seen that doesn’t apply to that rule, is you can purchase a 1 time WAR tract item. remember that scroll that let’s you instantly progress 1 level? it’s that. you can buy ONE, which every character generated on your account will be able to use… once. You will also be able to purchase server transfers, with no cooldown on the transfer (can go as many places as you can afford to transfer), the only limitation is that they will not allow you to transfer to a heavily crowded server.

Renown points are being given a complete overhaul. and while i can’t go into too much detail i can say this:

tiered progression is gone… no more being forced to spend points in things you don’t want/need just to get to +crit.
on the same note, it let’s you customise your character far better. you can get exactly what you want, and ignore what you don’t!
you can purchase specific renown abilities. we’ve been told about 3. these abilites are upgradable, and gain potency as you put more points into them. but remember, buying/upgrading these abilities will mean you don’t have those points left to spend on stats. you can’t have everything! GREEDY! these abilities are on a 4 minute cooldown.
Last Stand – This ability will last no more than 4 to 7 seconds (depending how upgraded it is). during that time, you are completely immune to damage. however, at the end of that time period, YOU DIE! (could be useful for bombers who’s healers are dead )
Total Cleanse – does exactly what it says on the tin! cleanses you of everything. can be upgraded though, so maybe it could cleanse your group too? we’re not sure on that one. only speculation!
No ap cost – None of your abilities will cost AP during a set time period. that time will increase the more you upgrade the ability.
SKAVEN!

Here’s the bit you’ve all been waiting for, i suppose! we’ve only been told that there are four classes to choose from (not careers, they’re very specific about this). skaven cannot progress in any way, they gain no additional abilities or ranks. while we’re not sure how you turn into a skaven (and if you’re told elsewhere, unless it comes from a member of mythic’s mouth directly, it’s probably false.) we do know that it doesn’t last forever, and that your character itself turns into one. we also know that you will still fight for the same realm, as being a skaven of a specific class can help your realm.

now on to the classes themselves!

The BRAWN!!! – Rat Ogres

Insane HP + Toughness/Armour values. these things are monsters, they’re extremely hard to kill!
They cannot be healed by any player, except by a skaven packmaster.
They can charge through enemies, knocking them all back.
They’re the only thing other than a ram, that can hurt a door.
Oh… and they can pick up any ally nearby, and hurl them onto a keep wall
The BRAINS!!! – Packmasters

The only class that can heal a rat ogre.
Provides buffs to rat ogres (and presumably other skaven).
Can summon swarms (and we do mean swarms) of rats, which have a stacking, outgoing damage debuff.
Squishy… but when in trouble, can skitterleap to the closest rat ogre!
Warlock Engineers!

Can produce pulse nodes made of warpstone in/around a keep, giving various buffs to healing/damage/mitigation.
The only thing that can repair siege weapons.
Has a warpstone flamethrower!!!
Gutter Runner….

Can permanently stealth.
While stealthed can move at +70% movement speed.
Super insanely squishy.
Deals poor damage vs players.
Can boobytrap siege weapons so that the next person to use it is hit for high damage (rumours of 4k+).

[pronoit]

başta böyle yapsalarmiş :

[Sam]

ilginç, fena fikirler değil gibi. bakalım uygulamadan nasıl olacak.

[arkimod]

aerial bomb and parachute???? artık bi sonraki patch dede taraflar yörüngeden space marine orbital strike falan da çağırabilir geliştirmeler böle devam ederse bi gün bi bakmışız 40 bininci milenyum gelmiş olurmu olur :P
çok hoş değişiklikler özellikle keep siege ler çok değişik olacak savaş alınındaki ogreler, air bomb, paraşütcüler :) fakat şu keep de spawn olabilme olayı iyi mi olur kötü mü olur emin değilim görmek lazım bi
şu ogreye dönüşme meselesi nası olacak onu anlayamadım bu alınan resources ilemi ilgili o nedir?
görmek için sabırsızlanıyorum ne zamandır girmiyodum tekrar dönerim bölece

[aquila]

enteresan seyler varmis, calisiyo adamlar. skaven olayini ben de anlamadim.

[Hao]

ben hiç bişi anlamadım :X

[trathias]

bu gutter runner baya eglenceli bişi olcak gibi tam kamikaze acıklananlara gore

[Hao]

evet :D

[Sparkcaster]

oyunu baştan böyle yapmaları gerekiyordu

[Alfred]

Hasstotoatata

Aha gerçek siege :d yavaş yavaş daoc un iyi yönlerini alıp değiştirip (daha iyi yapıp) oyuna monte edecekler inşallah.

ama düşündüğüm gibiyse süper bir olay...

Bide 3rd alliance

elder,necron, undead :D

Hane süper otesi olur hane ayda bir den günde 5 6 kez online olmaya başlarım tekrardan :D

[Asgard]

ne zaman geliyo bu zavazingo

karakteride sattık peh.neyse WE ile oynarım bende

[trathias]

bayaa devrim olucak 2 yıl sonra ilk defa insanları heycanlandıran bi patch yapacaklar inşallah bunu da ellerine yüzlerine bulaştırmazlar

yeni patch presentation

[Hao]

hayırlı olur umarım cümlemize :)

[HaciSerdar]

beni gayet heyecanlandırdı. inşallah tarihi de yakın bir zamana denk getirirler.

[arcane]

RvR çok iyi. Mükemmel duruyor. Ancak Skaven'a giden yol rvr dungeon. O dungeon city siege gibi birşeyse eyvallah ama bu hala content eksikliği demek, 20 renown rank boru değil...

[trathias]

yeni değişiklikler için çarşamba cuma pts de deneme olacak katılmak isteyenlere duyrulur
çarşamba us için yani gec saatte olcak cuma eu için normal saatte

[arcane]

Gült ile bir girer yeni instance'a bakarım, RvR kağıt üstünde de iyi duruyor zaten.

[jonq]

Konuyla alakasız olucak,

Oyunun BOX ını arkadaştan alıp kurdum. Bir bakmak içinde trial account açtım ama login olunca 10gb patch indirmeye kalkıyor.

Oyunun normalde kapladığı alan 10gb felan zaten. 10gb patch normalmidir ? Trial account diye farklı bir client vs. mi indiriyor yoksa ?

[Sam]

tanklara guard'ı kullanabilmek için shield şart koşuluyormuş test sunucusunda, sanki 2h tank 1h'nin iki katı dmg veriyordu da böyle saçmasapan bir değişiklik gereği hissettiler. bu iş olursa bırakırım herhalde ben de. skaven filan umrumda değil zaten.

[Marl0_on]

hiçbir zaman tam olamayacak ki bu oyun, bir şeyi düzelteceklerse başka bir şeyi bozmadan bırakamıyorlar.

[Harir]

Melee train etkisini kaybeder heralde böyle olunca.2h ile 1h'in baya farkı var abi.Cave'in yalan oluyor.Diğer tankların da 2h isteyen önemli skilleri var.Ayrıca %10 damage tactiğini kullanamayacaklar.Stat olarak pek farkı yok ama skill ve tactic açısından var baya.
Neyse ne yaparlarsa yapsınlar:D

[arcane]

3 tane tank mesaj atmış, nasıl biased belli değil :P Hem dps kadar dps output hem de daha fazla survival, üzerine guard olmaz. Bu haliyle de olmaz ona katılıyorum. Söz verdikleri gibi CC kralı yapmaları lazım tankları. Öyle stagger botlukla, guard botlukla olmaz bu iş. Eğlenceli birşeyler vermeleri lazım.

Bence bu değişiklik live olmaz.

[Sam]

"DİPİES KADAR DİPİES YAPTIKLARINI GÖZLERİMLE GÖRDÜM İNSAN DEYİL BUNLAR" da tank olmayan, video için glass cannon giden ib/chosen'dan dayak yemişler arasındaki en popüler şehir efsanelerinden birisi. dayanıklılık YARI YARIYA düşerken dmg iki katına çıkmıyor. shield olmadan BÜTÜN guard dmg'sini çatır çatır yiyorsunuz bir kere, healer koftiyse genelde 2h tank daha önce ölür guard attığı adamdan ve üstüne papara yer neden 2h oynuyor diye.

evet 1h + shield dandini ama bunun nedeni 2h'nin imbalığı değil, tank utilitylerinin zaman içerisinde iyiden iyiye nerflenmesi. snare atarsın immunity açar, cc atarsın hemen bozulur bir dk immune gezerler, guard & challenge atarsın ona rağmen karper peyniri gibi keserler yanındakini. ha buna karşılık elde ettiğin dmg de ancak asist trenine katılırken harcadığın ap'ye ancak değen birşey.

2h ile fazla imbalık yapan sınıf varsa gitsinler onu nerflesinler, titan claymore aldık halen "shield giysene" diyor sacrx. bir de bu olursa orvr'de haftada 16 saat hold the line üstüne senaryolarda da hold the line isteyecek. hoş gerçi şimdi de istiyor ya lol

hiç çekemem wow'daki slot işgali prot warrior seviyesine indirilmeyi 2 yıl oynadıktan sonra şu oyunu.

[arcane]

Dayanıklılık yarı yarıya düşüyormuş, cnms kıyamam ehueh. Biri sana Slayer falan versin de bir turla, vizyonun genişlesin :)

[aquila]

gene neye qqluyosun sam?