Google Reader qq

[Kharon]

1 temmuz da bitiyormus.
http://googlereader.blogspot.com/2013/03/powering-down-google-reader.html


60 dan fazla feedimle haftada binlerce feed okuyorum. Tum internet aliskanligimi degistirmis bisey. ne olacak simdi gidince bu? Bu gidince hangi rss servisini kullanicaz? Var mi bunun kadar guclusu, en azindan yaklasani?

[yav]

nasıl ya NEDEN?!?!

[aquila]

google+ kullansaydiniz bunlar olmicakti.

[Daesu]

wtf google

[yav]

yıllardır biriktirdiğim blog ve feedler benim için çok değerliydi interneti kapıyorlarmış gibi oldu lan resmen ühühühü

[DynamicK]

aynen, sicis.
ben belki yardimi olur diye petition imzaladim, girin yapin sizde

https://www.change.org/petitions/google-do-not-remove-google-reader-on-july-1-2013

[Kharon]

@yav
takedown bidisiyla onlarin hepsini indirebilir, json olarak listelerini edinebilirsin. Hali hazirdaki feedleri de xml paketleri olarak almak kolay. Mevzu gecmisten ziyade bundan sonra ne olacagi. RSS kullanmadigim bi internet dusunemedim ben.

Adam gibi client offlineken istatistik ve feed toplayacak bi 3rd party servis lazim. Flipboard falan gibi eyecandy lerde kesmez, lokal feed daemon lar da kesmez.

[yav]

bu konularda bildiğin muhafazakarım ben ya ödüm kopuyor kullanım alışkanlıklarımı değiştirmek zorunda kalmaktan pff

[Kharon]

hayir istesinler, parasi neyse verelim. Internette bundan baska gonul rahatligiyla para verecegim hizmet yok.

[mokoko]

reader ne ya :D hiç bilmiyorum valla

[DynamicK]

Android de en cok kullandigim app, gReader Pro.

resmen vucudumdan bir parca eksilecek gibi geliyor

[yav]

fuck google
im going to read my books

diye meme yapılsın heh

[Kharon]

benim de hem ios da hem osx de en cok kullandigim Reeder. Seamless reader entegrasyonu ve arayuzu ile asiktim resmen.

[DynamicK]

https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/%23SaveGoogleReader

[Daesu]

googleappz da paralı oldu komple geçen, sen eskisin senden para almıyoz dedi ama

[Desqpio]

gece gece cidden üzüldüm yahu. yıllardır kullanıyorum ediyorum hani. şimdi yeni bi servis/program bul da, alış da bilmem ne. öf.

fakı yu gugıl.

[Flassh]

iyi ki kullanmamışım lan hahaha yıllardır diyordum rss kullanmaya başlıyım diye ama hep üşeniyordum ayar çekmeye

[Ractamainus]

kharon durumundayım tam olarak..

zaten mevcur rss reader'ların çoğu google reader'da tutuyordu kayıtları ve hiç birinin altyapısı google reader gibi değil.

tamam arayüzle göz boyuyorlar ama google reader alternatifi pek yok.

bu alanda böyle bir boşluk bulunduğunu, google reader elimden alınınca anladım resmen.

[uk]

bu biraz ağır oldu be!

netvibes e bakayım, feedly ye bakayım ama bilemedim yerini tutar mı bunlar...

[Kharon]

quora da guzel bi cevap geldi konuyla alakali, burada dursun.

http://qr.ae/T4yJ5

Brian Shih, Former Google Reader Product Manager said:

Let's be clear that this has nothing to do with revenue vs operating costs. Reader never made money directly (though you could maybe attribute some of Feedburner and AdSense for Feeds usage to it), and it wasn't the goal of the product.

Reader has been fighting for approval/survival at Google since long before I was a PM for the product. I'm pretty sure Reader was threatened with de-staffing at least three times before it actually happened. It was often for some reason related to social:
2008 - let's pull the team off to build OpenSocial
2009 - let's pull the team off to build Buzz
2010 - let's pull the team off to build Google+
It turns out they decided to kill it anyway in 2010, even though most of the engineers opted against joining G+. Ironically, I think the reason Google always wanted to pull the Reader team off to build these other social products was that the Reader team actually understood social (and tried a lot of experiments over the years that informed the larger social features at the company)[1]. Reader's social features also evolved very organically in response to users, instead of being designed top-down like some of Google's other efforts[2].

I suspect that it survived for some time after being put into maintenance because they believed it could still be a useful source of content into G+. Reader users were always voracious consumers of content, and many of them filtered and shared a great deal of it.

But after switching the sharing features over to G+ (the so called "share-pocalypse") along with the redesigned UI, my guess is that usage just started to fall - particularly around sharing. I know that my sharing basically stopped completely once the redesign happened [3]. Though Google did ultimately fix a lot of the UI issues, the sharing (and therefore content going into G+) would never recover.

So with dwindling usefulness to G+, (likely) dwindling or flattening usage due to being in maintenance, and Google's big drive to focus in the last couple of years, what choice was there but to kill the product?

Personally, I think that there is still a lot of value a service like Reader could provide -- particularly in a world with increasing information overload coming us from many different sources. But Reader at Google was pigeonholed as an RSS-reader explicitly, and didn't have a chance to grow beyond that to explore that space. But that's neither here nor there.

[1] See Reader's friends implementations v1, v2, and v3, comments, privacy controls, and sharing features. Actually wait, you can't see those anymore, since they were all ripped out.

[2] Rob Fishman's Buzzfeed article has good coverage of this: Google's Lost Social Network

[3] Reader redesign: Terrible decision, or worst decision? I was a lot angrier then than I am now -- now I'm just sad.

Edit: I left Google in 2011 so this is all my own speculation. I have no idea if this is the real reason or not, and there certainly could be more to the story. Don't take my word as gospel -- I'm looking at you, TNW

[BiTcH_oFBaT]

Bu demek oluyor ki artık iyice app moduna bağladılar. Current'ı mı öne çıkarmaya çalışacaklar acaba.

[-Bonesoul-]

uzuldum ya, RIP..

[reyou]

http://www.feedly.com/

hadi gecmis olsun.

[GERGE]

Buna gecis yaptim ben:

http://www.timschroeder.net/monotony/

[Kharon]

Simdi kimler hangi servislere gecti, ne kadar zamandir kullaniyor, ne kadar memnunlar. son 10 gun kala bir munazarasini yapalim yoksa don gibi kalacagiz.

2 gun sonra Digg Reader in release i var. Hayli iddialilar.
Feedly bir suredir bosalan market share i kapmak icin deliler gibi ugrasiyor ve reeder v.b. gibi uygulamalarla sync destegi getirdi.
Ustune bir kac takip etmedigim servis daha var.

karsilastirmalarini yapalim.