Yunanlilar Geliiii

[reyou]

voa said:

Development might seem remarkable considering that Greece and Turkey have been rivals and almost on the brink of war at various times

With the Greek economy deep in recession, some Greeks are now looking to neighboring Turkey - in particular Istanbul - for the chance of a better life. A remarkable development considering the relations between the two have been marked by alternating periods of mutual hostility and reconciliation ever since Greece won it independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1821.

Eleni Varmazi is drinking a coffee in a cafe, taking a rest from her job teaching at one of Istanbul's numerous private universities. Varmazi is one of a growing number of Greeks who has found work in Istanbul.

"I applied in the UK, in Ireland , in Brussels in the European Union, in Cyprus for many positions, and here also. I am very happy with my jobs with my students , I was looking forward to teaching Turkish students and everything is going great on this level. It is even more convenient than trying to find a job in London or in Berlin. It's closer you can go back for weekends. I know two or three people who have moved here and found a job here, and I am sure their a lot more," she said.

Varmazi's story might seem remarkable considering that Greece and Turkey have been rivals and almost on the brink of war at various times. But Varmazi's story is no longer that unusual.

Ionis Grigoriadis is an expert on international relations at Bilkent University. I met him in Fener, the ancient Greek quarter of Istanbul, where he has bought a house. Grigoriadis says the fact that a growing number of Greeks are coming to Istanbul is proof that relations between the two countries are improving.

"We are no where close to the very difficult circumstances of the late 90's where the two countries came to the brink of war. Students from Greece come to Istanbul to learn Turkish. In the last year a very popular TV series from Turkey attracted a very high rating in Greek TV, which shows that the very low resolution view of Turkey is changing. That people understand Turkey is many things of course there are dark sides like in many countries. So things are moving to a more balanced approach," he said.

At the opening of an exhibition celebrating Greek architecture in Istanbul, a first for the city, Greek not Turkish is the prevailing language. Laki Vingas is a senior member of the city's Greek community. He says the community was on the verge of collapsing but believes its now turned the corner.

"They had a target time until their children were graduating from the high school and then the whole family was leaving. That's why from 100,000 people we are now left 3,000 people. Everybody used to say not their identity, not to mention their Greek Orthodox of Turkey, so they were trying to hide their name, their religion their identity. Where as now they are saying this openly. Unfortunately it was very bad century , the 20th century. So we feel the 21 century is a turning point for us," he said.

At Istanbul's Zografen Greek High school, an English teacher is preparing her class for their final exams. There are only four pupils. The large high school has less than 100 pupils. But where in the past, upon graduating, pupils would leave for Greece, now pupils want to stay - like Natasa.

"I want to become a translator at university in Turkey , because I was born here, I am living here. I love Istanbul. I have friends here and to left for them. I want my future here," she said.

There are no official figures on how many Greeks are working in Istanbul, but the numbers are believed to be small and growing. Along with the ongoing economic turmoil in Greece and Turkey's burgeoning economy, analysts believe Istanbul will be a destination for an increasing numbers of Greeks. After all, the name "Istanbul", stems from the Greek word for "I go to the city".

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/europe/Increasing-Number-of-Greeks-Flee-to-Turkey-For-a-Better-Life-112572489.html

[nomsaR]

geldikleri gibi giderler.

[zeper]

öyle demeyelim ya komşu onlar;)

[Aket-Atum]

said:

After all, the name "Istanbul", stems from the Greek word for "I go to the city".

aa??

Gelsinler ya, iyidir. Bizim kütükler belki yontulur bu vesile ile.

[throine]

eski haber. :/

[Pickles]

Constantinople daha karizmatikti keşke öyle kalaymış

[aquila]

istanbul olduguna sukredin, mehmediye de olabilirdi, konstantinopolden esinlenip.

[Bella]

benim yunan arkadaşım hala istanbula constantinople diyo uyardım bi kaç kere bigün vurucam ağzına o olcak sdfs

[forçen]

özet?

[zeper]

oooo aynı:D..aynen yanii,,,kaç defa uyardım falan "olum şarkısı bile var istanbul is not consantinopole ,,,şuna istanbul desene" diye..yok abii uyuzluk olsun die yapıyorar:D

Bella said:

benim yunanlı arkadaşım hala istanbula constantinapole diyo uyardım bi kaç kere bigün vurucam ağzına o olcak sdfs

[Holy]

Selanikli sizi kovduğundan beri kendinize gelemediniz diyebilirsin.

kovmak yerine farklı fiiller kullanabilirsin, hayal gücüne bıraktım.

[hamsilipilav]

gelsinler iyidir

[zeper]

ben bir kere "şişşş sakarya meydan muharebbesii,,,,ne oldu???" dedim,o da doğal olarak "what" dedi tabi, olsun kendimi tatmin ettim:)

[Pickles]

ben yunan bi hocamıza hocam sizi nası denize döktük dedim o gün bu gündür dersten fix ff alıyorum

[Bella]

geçen yaprak sarmasına bizim diyodu. hey allahım.
yoğurt falan zaten onların..,,

[reyou]

asil baklava..
athens baklavasi diye satmalari yokmu abowww

ama yunanli kardeslerimizi severiz sayariz :)

[dasaaa]

Bella said:

benim yunan arkadaşım hala istanbula constantinople diyo uyardım bi kaç kere bigün vurucam ağzına o olcak sdfs

vurmaya çağırırsanız dedemden kalma emanetlerle gelirim bak.

Yunanlılar Geliiii.... Out..

sabri

oyun denize dökme ile devam edecek.

[zeper]

aa o izmir olayını onlar bizden farklı görüyorlar,,,orda onlar haklı aslında onlara göre tabi...mesela siz yakıp yıktınız izmiri diyor ben de hayır ya biz şimdi sizi denize döktük ya sizde bizim olmadı izmir türklerin de olmasın diye yaktınız diyorum,,

	,tabi şakalaşıyoruz 

	

o da bana bize okulda hayır hep türkler yaktı diye gösteriyorlar diyor,
tabi şey de var, bunlar işgal ediyor ya, o ara biz yakmışız da anadoluya kaçmışız galba bilmiyorum,ben onun yalancısıyım:D

[dasaaa]

yok iki üç tanesi gelir üye olur yarın öbürsü gün..

sonra tuttururlar "aslında bu site bizimdi!" diye..

hayatları sahip olmadıkları şeyi sahiplenme ile geçiyor heriflerin..




onlar beni ve ben de onları sevmiyorum. açık ve net bir ilişkimiz var. memnunuz bu seviyeli ayrılıktan.

[Bella]

genellemeyin.

[aquila]

is yunan oldumu her turlu genellerim.

[Bella]

çok iyisi de var yahu.
ama bir yunan kızarkadaşım var insanı hayattan soğutur.constantinaople diyen işte.ayrı konu açmak lazım ona.

[Esnaf]

açalım

[aquila]

cok iyisi ne ya, isterse peygamber olsun.

[dasaaa]

valla çok az sayıdaki insan için de toplumun çoğunluğunu göklere çıkartmak güç geldi şimdi..


az sayıda iyi ve sıcak ve mantıklı davranan yunanlı var olabilir.


kar adam yeti gerçek olabilir.

dünya üzerinde antik çağlarda anlatılan dev ahtopotlar hâlâ var olabilir.

megaladon köpekbalığı denizin derinliklerinde yaşıyor olabilir.

chupacabra gerçekten var olabilir.