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Macross Frontier


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Öne çıkan mesajlar

deli emek vardı belli de bana uymuyor belli ki bu tarz, (konuyu geçiyorum bir yerde kurgu hikaye derim kendi evrenini kabul ederim, aşırı kişiselleştirme yordu beni) uğraşmışlar güzel yapmışlar filan ama nedense keyif alamadım pek. esasen hoşgörmem gereken yerler çapak gibi battı gözüme, serinin sonlarına doğru olmaya başladı hani ilk yarı hoşuma gitmişti hayli. belki de insanlığın kaderi sözkonusuyken pembe dizimsi meyillenme hissettiğimden oldu.

ama çok uğraşılmış yani haklarını veriyorum animasyon olarak çok iyiydi.
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PSP ye çıkan oyununu millet baya sevmiş. SDF den Frontiera bütün timelinelar var. Pilot/wingman/bridgebunny falan da seçebiliyorsunuz diyorlar. Acaip merak ettim şimdi >:

600mb birşey zaten yokmu PSPli bir delikanlı japoncadan korkmayan ? >:
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Haha seviyorum Kawamoriyi ben ya. Yok böyle bir adam. Frontier bölümlerine kendi yorumu :>


Ep1 Close Encounter (Finally seeing his 3 year work finalized).

Ep 2 Hard Chase: He always dreamed for Minmey to have an older sister, that is when he designed the mini duet with Ranka/Sheryl.

Ep 4 Miss Macross: Mikimoto was inspired in Matsuda Seiko when he designed Minmay. When she won Miss Macross in SDF, he never forgave Kawamori because Seiko never won anything when she wasn't popular. Kawamori wanted to do something similar to emulate Seiko, so Ranka didn't win this one.

Ep 5 Star Date: This episode established Sheryl as Ranka's big sister image, but when they had the script, they discovered in Sheryl a new character that can be more in her image as a woman. This is the script that held the more changes, because Kawamori wasn't convinced then that Sheryl could be that important.Risa Ebata asked him to aprove the changes , and later they had a big meeting with BIG WEST to send to another studio the changes they would make also for episode 6.

Ep 7 First Attack: This was made as a gift to all the mecha fans.

Ep 10 Legend of Zero: He always wanted to pay homage to his past works were his current characters will relive the scenes of the earlier adventures via a movie. This cameo wasn't planned but Kawamori thinks that because of this Ranka began to have big loads of work and eventaully gave her bad luck.

Ep 12 Fastest Delivery: I made this episode just to piss of people, hence the "KIRA!". Arriving in the heat of battle, singing, isn't crazy like in the days of M7.

Ep 14. Morthers Lullaby: This is were I made a homage to the work of a friend of mine (Hiroshi Ohnogi).

Ep 16: Ranka Attack. Another Mikimoto's wish. Showing that love, expressed by singing, under the influence of any goverment can change it's meaning and turn it into a weapon of war. Mikimoto thought this concept wasn't fully used in SDF.

Ep 17: Goodbye Sister: I just wanted to make fun of the pineapple salad and show the truth to old macross fans: this is mortal to womanizers, not Skull leaders. (chuckles). Roy being a womanizer & Skull leader was just a coincidense. (heh)

Ep 18: Fold Fame. Hiroshi Ohnogi jumps on board the staff. He had a tuff job because we didn't know what to do about Sheryl Nome. Ohnogi asked to leave her in his hands. We were cruel because we pushed Sheryl to her limits until the ending but this is the episode were Ohnogi remade Sheryl Nome.

Ep 20: Diamond Crevasse. This is the most difficult episode I've directed in my career. I surfed many forums and saw people were sad, (Even our staff). But we expressed exactly what we wanted to show: despair.

Ep 21 Azure Ether. This is the end of the cycle full of trials & tribulations. Ranka Lee had a different message to give than what we first invisioned in her inocent version. Ohnogi then sent her on a voyage of self-discovery; it was hard on her (and us).

Ep 22 Northern Cross. Humillity is the key word. Ohnogi finished polishing Sheryl's character. The episode is full with proofs of humility.

Ep 23 True beginning. Famiy, simple life. Actions & dreams. A good episode to show the real motives of our main characters

Ep 24 Last Frontier. The final frontier, in essence, is one self. The fans loved the Sheryl y Alto scene, and I must say, I loved it too! They look really good on screen. (laughs)

Ep 25: Anata no oto. Because it is my dreams turned into reality.
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Macross Frontier Original Soundtrack 2: Nyan Tora sold 102,000 copies to rank #2 in the most recent Oricon weekly album sales chart. That makes this CD the first soundtrack since 1997's The End of Evangelion album to sell more than 100,000 copies in its first week in Japan. The first Macross Frontier soundtrack sold 72,000 copies in its first week to rank #3 in June, while The End of Evangelion album sold 165,000 copies to reach #3. All four Macross Frontier CD singles have also debuted in the top 5 of Oricon's weekly singles chart, and three ranked at #3.

BDler onbinler satıyor, albümler 100000+ satıyor. Daha hala devamını çıkarmazlarsa gidip Satelightı ve Kawamoriyi yakmak lazım.
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  • 3 ay sonra ...
her yerde yana yana türkçe alt yazısı ararken döndüm dolaştım yine pati ye düştü yolum , iki arkadaş çeviri yapıp yayınlıyacakları konusunda anlaşmışlar fakat proje hayata geçmemiş sanırım 30 küsür sayfa merakla yazıları takip ettim ama alt yazı konusunda hiç bişi bulamadım, şu 25 bölümünde çevirisini yapsalarda bi ağız tadıyla seyretsek yada bana bu animenin türkçe alt yazılarını bulabilceğim bi adres verebilirseniz mesut ve bahtitar olurum , netten baktığımda çoğu sitede sadece 1. bölümünün var onu da indirip seyrettim ve acaip hoşuma gitti devam etmek istiyorum ama şu alt yazı sorununu çözebilirsem tabi ...
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  • 5 hafta sonra ...
Macrossworld den araktır. Yönetmen Kawamori ile yapılan şahane bir röportaj. Özellikle Macross dünyası ve hikayesi hakkında fazla bilgisi olmayanlar için bir çok yararlı bilgi var. Güç dengeleri, kültür ve yönetim konusunda aklınızda olan birçok soruya cevap bulabilirsiniz.

Title: We ask Supervising Director Kawamori! The Macross Frontier World

Interviewer - Although we covered many topics during the previous interview, I’d like to specifically ask questions about how the world of Macross F is set up.

Kawamori - (laughs) There probably are things that I either can’t talk about, don’t have a definite answer, or have to keep secret.

Interviewer - Is that so? (laughs) Then I’ll probably ask questions about topics which I probably shouldn’t ask about…

Kawamori - Well then, in those cases, my responses are off the record. (laugh)

Interviewer - Let’s begin then. Currently in space, we know that there are a number of Macross ships present, including first generation and Galaxy class ships. How many Macross class Colonial Fleets are currently active?

Kawamori - Well, if we combine the large and small fleets, there are dozens that are active. This includes the Megaroad type and colonial fleets which do not have Macross class ships. Within these fleets, I would say that there are dozens of Macross class ships that are making the voyage. If first generation fleets are present, then there are also Macross 7 size fleets, and there are, of course, Frontier size fleets present.

Interviewer - Then the ships in a fleet are constantly being replaced with newer types?

Kawamori - It’s not so much a matter of replacing, it’s more a matter of adding new ships to what’s already there. This also happens in real life. Since the life span of a ship is so long, it’s a losing proposition if you don’t use the ship for dozens of years. (laughs)

Interviewer - Making the ships for dozens of active fleets in a span of 50 years starting from the year 2009 is quite a feat of mass production, isn’t it?

Kawamori - That’s true. You would be able to manufacture ships yourself once the Zentradi factory ships were modified. That is a prerequisite for sure. Without that, mass production would be difficult.

Interviewer - Then earth’s resources weren’t being used?

Kawamori - Human resources were definitely being used, but since that would be insufficient, Zentradi technology was also used. Originally, since the Zentradi had a limited culture and limited practical skills due to Protoculture, humanity was better able to modify Zentradi technolgy. At that time, Zentradi technology, like the fold system, was modified to be easier to use by humans and in common use.

Interviewer - Are repaired Zentradi ships being used?

Kawamori - Yes, they are. There are colonial ships which are just the modified insides of Zentradi ships. It’s just that I didn’t want them to appear on screen because it would be too confusing. (laughs) If you mixed in Zentradi designed ships, you would no longer be able to tell who the good guys and bad guys were with just a quick glance. For people who are watching Macross F for the first time, this part of the story would be lost. That’s why Zentradi ships don’t appear in the series with the exception of episode 12. There are actually colonial ships which are made from modified Zentradi ships. If those are taken into account, I would say there are about 100 Zentradi ships.

Interviewer - Then there are colonial ships which are made up of just Zentradis?

Kawamori - Yes, of course. Since the ships were originally made for Zentradis, modifications would be quick and easy.

Interviewer - How many people live in the Macross Frontier fleet?

Kawamori - About 10,000,000 people.

Interviewer - 10,000,000 doesn’t really sound like that many people…it’s about the population of a Japanese prefecture.

Kawamori - Yes, that’s true, isn’t it? It couldn’t have been an enormous population considering that Sheryl was the premiere star of the Galaxy Network, which covered every colonial fleet and planet and the Earth

Interviewer - How big of a star was she? In the story, her popularity on Macross Frontier was dropping, and she actually seemed more like a local celebrity.

Kawamori - Although she was known as the queen of the Galaxy Net, your popularity soon drops if you don’t release songs and you don’t get exposure, just like in real life. Things were going well for her during the time of the Galaxy Tour, but once the war began, it became really difficult for her to promote herself. Since the Galaxy Network was no longer broadcasting information that let people know that she was still around, her fame was fading due to the lack of promotion.

Interviewer - There is a time lag involved when sending information by current light wave communication technology. If the Galaxy Net does not have such a time lag, does this mean that all the colonial fleets in all of space are always in synch?

Kawamori - Although the fold transmission wave is utilized, a time lag does occur whenever you send information over hundreds or thousands of light years. A time lag can also develop due to fold faults. Although the fold transmission wave is clearly faster than a ship’s fold system, I would have to say that there is a limit even to that.

Interviewer - Then it’s an all space network that isn’t always consistent?

Kawamori - Yes. When it’s slow, messages take several months to arrive. When it’s really bad, it takes a year and information can be out of date. Because of various factors like the location of fold faults, it’s not unusual that a connection which just worked the other day no longer works.

Interviewer - I’ve never heard of fold faults until now. Was it not present until now or was it just the fact that the colonial fleets were scattered across space that made it easier to discover?

Kawamori - In the past, the existence of fold faults themselves could not be confirmed. In the real world, it was said not too long ago that the mass of the galaxy was insufficient due to the existence of black holes, but due to advances in astronomical observation techniques, the cause was later attributed to the existence of dark matter. Eventually, as technology advanced, the idea that dark energy accounts for the majority of the missing mass of the universe became the accepted theory.

Interviewer - Then this means that it was a new discovery that happened only when humanity applied its powers of observation to the Zentradi’s technology, since the Zentradi’s powers of obervation were lacking?

Kawamori - Although the phenomena appeared on Zentradi sensors, they simply had no curiosity about it. Since they were only able to think in terms of “Why is it there?”, “Is it friend or foe?”, and “Should we attack?”, they cannot think beyond these terms even if they are ordered to. They simply haven’t been taught to think in a different manner.

Interviewer - There ability to think when it came to such things as culture and music was limited.

Kawamori - It was limited. Since there ability to think was limited, I kind of think their society really resembles modern day society. (laughs)

Interviewer - (laughs) Since the existence of fold faults was not confirmed, does this mean that the technology of the civilian corporations was able to provide a breakthrough in this area like in episode 12?

Kawamori - Actually, the Vajra had something to do with that technology.

Interviewer - Although the colonial fleets are scattered all over space, the first planet that was reached was Eden, correct?

Kawamori - It’s been established that Eden’s sun was located the closest to Earth.

Interviewer - The planet Eden was reached in the year 2015, wasn’t it?

Kawamori - Was that the date? (laughs) There are plans from the early stages you keep in mind whenever you’re having story problems, although it’s not like having a plan A, plan B, and plan C. Although these plans are present, whenever you are doing things like the continuity for a scernario you created, you don’t always remember what has already been established. Viewers remember things because they watch the final outcomes as they are shown on TV. In my case, since I sometimes work on things which are still in progress, there are times when I think, “How did that go?”

Interviewer - The first planet was Eden. Will the number of habitable planets steadily increase?

Kawamori - Hmmmmmm. The biggest problem is the level of astronomical observation technology since it’s already been established that terra forming isn’t really used that often. If terra forming was really used,
it would require a lot of time and that’s why it’s not really done. There are things like dark mattter and fold faults that can’t be seen that might be near the future Earth.

Interviewer - Was “Frontier” a part of the title because people were going to travel to the areas beyond the fold faults?

Kawamori - It wasn’t just the fold faults, it was also the feeling of stepping out into unknown territory.

Interviewer - Then what is the destination of the Macross Frontier fleet?

Kawamori - It’s actually heading for the center of the galaxy. It’s a voyage that is being made to search for the things which brought about the revolution in fold technology. Officially, the citizens of the Macross Frontier fleet aren’t told of this and also don’t know of the fact that the voyage is influenced by Richard Bilrer, sponsor of the S.M.S and shadow sponsor of the Frontier Fleet.

Interviewer - Then Frontier is an experimental model?

Kawamori - It’s not so much an experimental model, but more like a ship that is sent off on a voyage to discover the new world. Frontier’s voyage is being made to search for raw materials which will allow a great revolution, one that is on par with the Industrial Revolution, to occur. The purpose of this revolution would be to create the newest technology of the current age.

Interviewer - The citizens are involved yet they know nothing of it?

Kawamori - Yes

Interviewer - Whether it’s the S.M.S or the Macross Galaxy, the civilian corporations seem to have become much more powerful than the government in the Macross world.

Kawamori - In the real world, corporations have become powerful, haven’t they? On a related aspect, it’s a feeling inside of me that the notion of “nation” is already merely an illusion that was created by skillful propaganda. In other words, haven’t “nations” already become puppets of multi-national corporations and the capitalist groups who back them? Using the word “nation” means that various things are being skillfully manipulated.

Interviewer - Then there are civilian corporations that have more power than a Macross class Colonial Fleet, and those civilian corporations manipulate everything according to their hidden agendas?

Kawamori - Yes, that’s right. In secret, the civilian corporations and pivotal members of the groups that back them use various people in order to achieve their goals.

Interviewer - So although they are following the unified goals of the citizens, they also have their own agenda which the citizens never see.

Kawamori - Yes. In the real world, there are mutli-national corporations that are part of other group organizations that invest in other multi-national corporations.

Interviewer - Then that is fundamental to the story, isn’t it?

Kawamori - It is.

Interviewer - Sheryl’s manager, Grace, is doing some really suspicious things….Anyways, let’s return to the story for a bit. There was a lot of contact between the colonial fleets. Is there a standard style of exchange?

Kawamori - Yes, there is. High speed crafts that travel using folds are the main method, but since fold travel is much slower than fold communication, transporting goods is very slow, and this method is very limited. For those fleets which are close to each other, they use a relay system when sending things back and forth, which also includes using Earth as a relay point.

Interviewer - Although the network broadcasts to many locations, is it still being expanded?

Kawamori - The information net is advanced to a certain extent, but it’s like only having the internet during an Age of Discovery. It’s that type of world. (laughs)

Interviewer - (laughs) Then money and information are pretty much the only things that move around freely?

Kawamori - Yes, that’s true. The Valkyrie VF-25 itself wasn’t developed on the Frontier. Plans and development test data for the YF-24, which was developed on Earth and Eden, were given to the Frontier and LAI created a version of the YF-24, the VF-25. With the same data, the Galaxy created the VF-27.

Interviewer - They’re all based on the same Valkyrie design?

Kawamori - Yes, they are all off-shoots of the YF-24.

Interviewer - That also appeared in Macross 7, didn’t it? There were fighters like the VF-19 which were based on another fighter.

Kawamori - Some are developed from scratch by the fleets themselves, but things like running tests on the fighters would understandably be extremely difficult engineering wise. Keeping that in mind, that’s why development occurs on Earth or colonized planets. Once the majority of the tests and experiments are completed, the respective fleets can than take that information and decide what type of fighter to create from the data. Even in real life, it’s the same as when the US military buys Israeli fuselages that have gone through many actual battles and then improves on the design to create a more powerful fighter.

Interviewer - Then since the military factories and companies are competing fiercely for business, new generation Valkyries are always replacing the older models?

Kawamori - It’s not so much a matter of replacing, it’s more a matter of adding to what you already have. There are probably some fleets out there that are still using the VF-19s as VF-19s.

Interviewer - In the Macross world, do the colonial fleets have currency? If they do, is it standardized?

Kawamori - It hasn’t reached a point where it’s like the modern day Euro. Each fleet has a currency and I would say that the denominations and currency rate are probably different.

Interviewer - Then are there rate changes and currency mergers?

Kawamori - There are. The reason why the old government became the New Unity Government is that constituency of the old government had become too spread out and the government could not unify them into one body. The civilians became too strong and nations started to fall apart. The old government started changing into the New Unity Government.

Interviewer - Then there was no coup d’ etat? It was just a breakdown of the old government?

Kawamori - It no longer fit in with the realities of the Macross world.

Interviewer - You have the planet Eden, which has a colonial fleet administration. Is it run like a colonial fleet?

Kawamori - It’s become an independent administration of sorts. It’s like a privatized country.

Interviewer - Has power become decentralized? In other words, similar to countries in modern times, each colonial fleet would be a different country?

Kawamori - Macross Frontier is still like a country since it has a president, but Macross Galaxy is a corporate entity.

Interviewer - Becasue it’s developing implant technology?

Kawamori - Yes. Although I can’t give an exact date, the ban on implants themselves has recently been completely lifted. It’s said that technological innovation is happening inside the Galaxy. There was a big dispute over whether or not implants should be legalized, and in the end, the implant supporters won out.

Interviewer - What is the Earth’s position on all of this?

Kawamori - The Earth is still managing to do things as the Earth. (laughs)

Interviewer - Doesn’t the Earth have any power over the Colonial Fleets like the old unity government?

Kawamori - It doesn’t have anything like absoulte authority. It’s more symbolic.

Interviewer - So it’s not like the old Soviet Union or modern day America, it’s more like the European Union?

Kawamori - That’s probably the most similar, but the distance between the Earth and the Colonial Fleets is such that if you tried to return to Earth, it would take 10 years.

Interviewer - It’s not too far for sending information, but too far to actually go there.

Kawamori - Yes. That’s why Vajira power started becoming necessary in order to shrink the distance. The Vajira had Super High Speed Fold technology which was able to ignore the fold faults. The Super High Speed Fold System that was used in episode 12 was a system that used Vajira abilities. The system could be built because a corpse of a Vajira was obtained.

Interviewer - I see. Things were happening in the background and there were suspicious things happening.

Kawamori - Since I wanted to do things like that for the later half, I did the school campus things during the first half. (laughs)

Interviewer - (laughs) Everyone was cheerful and having a good time. So what about the human aspects of the Macross world? Alto’s family is an old family that is Japanese, isn’t it?

Kawamori - They’re not so much Japanese as they are people of Japan. Since Japan dissolved as a nation, I guess you could say that they are of Japanese descent.

Interviewer - In the Macross world, are the traditional arts preserved?

Kawamori - Since the first devastation of the Earth, there has been trauma concerned with that time, so there has been a movement to preserve Earth culture from the beginning year of the 21st century to the year 2009. Right after World War 2, after Europe had been severely bombed, it was rebuilt just like it originally was. It’s like they were trying to pass on it’s history and tradition.

Interviewer - Then it was similar to having things like living national trasures and intangible cultural assets?

Kawamori - It’s similar to having those things, but even then it’s not like everyone goes to see those things. When it comes to popularity, everyone is critical.

- There was still lots to talk about, but the contents were so in depth that we couldn’t fit them into this issue. To be continued in the next issue.

Kawamori Shouji Profile: Born in 1960 in Toyama prefecture. Active as a mecha designer since his student days and was the leading person who introduced the tranformation ability of the Valkyrie. At the age of 24, he made his directorial debut with the movie “Macross Do You Remember Love?” (co-directed with Ishiguro Noburo). A “Vision Creator” who has worked in a wide variety of roles including original story writer, director, producer, script writer, storyboard artist, and mecha designer on such series as Macross Plus, Arjuna, Aquarion, Macross Zero, and Aquarion The Movie.
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Şimdiye kadar çıkan Macross'ların uzunlukça yaklaşık yarısına yakınını oluşturan kısmı Macross 7, faciaydı.

Zero ve Plus'un yanısıra zamanı koşullarında değerlendirirsek SDF mükemmeldi. (DYRL'yi şu ana dek 2000'den beri rahat 8 kez tekrardan izlemişimdir) Ama kalan Macross'lar ( GC Mospeda - M7 - F - M2 ) hayal kırıklığıydı benim açımdan.

Sheryl ve Ranka oldukça antipatik tipler oldular, sahneleri geldikçe Ozma'lı bölümlere ne zaman geçicez diye içinden geçirir oldum. Çok daha militer , karamsar , dramatik bir seri bekliyordum F'den ama açıkçası ben bayanları seriye çekmek amacıyla yapılmış bir sequel ile karşılaştım, bir SDF yada Plus'da hissettiklerimi açıkçası F'de hissetmedim. Bu nedenlerden biri de Plus gibi serielrde kullanılan ayrıntılı ön hazırlık süreci ve detay çalışmasını bu yapımda bu derece görmememdi. Yıllar öncesinin 0080'ninde bile MS enkazları düştükleri yerlerdeki trafo bağlantılarının yerlerine göre elektrik kesintisine neden olup şehirde o bölgede hattının gittiği yerlere göre karartı yaparken F'de Vajra'lar şehre üst üste plazma atışları yaparken bile apaydınlık bir şehir görüyoruz ve arka plan hiç değişmiyor. Bu sadece bir örnek.

Sonuç olarak bana göre oturup altyazı filan yapmaya değer, ama ayrıyeten gani gani övmeye gerek olmayan bir çalışma F
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  • 4 ay sonra ...
code geass ı mecha olarak düşünmezsek, ilk izleyip tamamladığım mecha türünde anime serisi oldu macross frontier. çok iyiydi. başlarda pek haz etmiyordum da, sona doğru kendini aşırı sevdirtti.

deculture, protoculture gibi kelimeleri kaede açıklamış olsa da, kendim animeden öğrenmek isterim. önceki macross serilerinde anlatılıyor değil mi bunlar?

seriye en baştan, macross zerodan başlamak istiyorum. ova, special falan pek sevgimi kazanmadığı için şunu sormak istiyorum. side story olarak yapılmış macross ovaları seyretmeye değer mi? yoksa atlayabilir miyim?
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e zaten epi topu 5 seri var.

sdf macross
macross 7
macross plus
macross zero
macross frontier

1'ini izlemişsin, macross 7'den kac zaten, sonra bu sırayla izle işte.


tabı 30 senelik seriyi izlemek sıkabilir cok hayranı değilsen, ne kadar zamanına gore cok kaliteli olsada cizimleri animasyonları artık hantal kalıyor sdf macross. Onun yerine derleme olarak yapılmış "do you remember love" var. direk onu izliyebilirsin.
ama plus'ın film versiyonunu izleme, 30 küsür dakkalık 4 bölüm zaten ve tıka basa dolu bir anime. Filmde cok yer kesmişler ister istemez.
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