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cat pat insan psikolojisini bilen biri olarak genel bi degerlendirme yapiyim seri ile ilgili

inaba klasik INTP, tipolojisinin getirdigi gunluk hayattaki mantik ile duygularin catismasi sendromunu, kendine yakin kimseyi gorememesi sendromunu filan iyi islediler. Taichi direk inabanin shadow tipolojisi ESFJ, direk hani puzzle gibi birbirlerini tamamliyorlar, unleash sendromunu filan cok iyi islediler, kendimde INTP oldugum icin cok iyi algilamayi basarabildigim bir karakter oldu, hani senelerdir kendime yakin bir karaktere ilk defa rastladim, birde ustune birebir ortusen karakter cikti.

aokiyi direk "ici disi bir bunun, basit karakter" olarak oturtmuslar, heartseed de dedi zaten en bayiklari sensin diye, belli son dakkada cakilmis bi karakter

Yui tipolojisinden cok arketip uzerinden islenmis bir karakter olmus, animusun cocuklugunda gecirdigi bir tramva yuzunden carpik olmasi ve bunun asiri feminen kisiligi ile olusturdugu tezat cok iyi yansitilmisti, sonunda kendisi ile barismayi basarabildi

Taichi tipik ESFJ idi, normalde ESFJ icin tipik anne tipolojisi denir zaten, hikayelerde sahane main support olsalarda cok duz karakterlerdir, izleyiciyi cekemezler enteresan olamazlar cunki, taichi buna ragmen iyi goturdu cunki olaylar diger karakterleri mahvederken taichi immune idi kendi tipolojisi yuzunden

iori ise acik ve net olmamis bir karakter, bi-polar bozukluk desek degil, temelde persona olgusunu isleyen bir karakter ve sonlarda persona olusturma kabiliyetini kaybediyor, buraya kadar cok iyi ancak dip noktasindan cikmayi beceremedi, bu kadar drama bu conclusion cok zayif kaldi, persoan olsuturma yetenegini kaybeden bi insan ole "POWER OF THE HEART!!1" ile kendim olucam diyip olsuturamadigi personasina geri donmez, bu ne perhiz bu ne lahana tursusu. mutlu son olmasi adina ioriyi ipten aldilar normalde gidisati intehardi direk ki sosyal intihari gerceklestirmisti.

seri taichi ile inaba uzerine kaldigina ve en defined ve iyi oturmus tipolojiler bu ikisi olduguna gore surayada merak edenler icin aciklama veriyim

ESFJ

The Caregiver


As an ESFJ, your primary mode of living is focused externally, where you deal with things according to how you feel about them, or how they fit in with your personal value system. Your secondary mode is internal, where you take things in via your five senses in a literal, concrete fashion.

ESFJs are people persons - they love people. They are warmly interested in others. They use their Sensing and Judging characteristics to gather specific, detailed information about others, and turn this information into supportive judgments. They want to like people, and have a special skill at bringing out the best in others. They are extremely good at reading others, and understanding their point of view. The ESFJ's strong desire to be liked and for everything to be pleasant makes them highly supportive of others. People like to be around ESFJs, because the ESFJ has a special gift of invariably making people feel good about themselves.

The ESFJ takes their responsibilities very seriously, and is very dependable. They value security and stability, and have a strong focus on the details of life. They see before others do what needs to be done, and do whatever it takes to make sure that it gets done. They enjoy these types of tasks, and are extremely good at them.

ESFJs are warm and energetic. They need approval from others to feel good about themselves. They are hurt by indifference and don't understand unkindness. They are very giving people, who get a lot of their personal satisfaction from the happiness of others. They want to be appreciated for who they are, and what they give. They're very sensitive to others, and freely give practical care. ESFJs are such caring individuals, that they sometimes have a hard time seeing or accepting a difficult truth about someone they care about.

With Extraverted Feeling dominating their personality, ESFJs are focused on reading other people. They have a strong need to be liked, and to be in control. They are extremely good at reading others, and often change their own manner to be more pleasing to whoever they're with at the moment.

The ESFJ's value system is defined externally. They usually have very well-formed ideas about the way things should be, and are not shy about expressing these opinions. However, they weigh their values and morals against the world around them, rather than against an internal value system. They may have a strong moral code, but it is defined by the community that they live in, rather than by any strongly felt internal values.

ESFJs who have had the benefit of being raised and surrounded by a strong value system that is ethical and centered around genuine goodness will most likely be the kindest, most generous souls who will gladly give you the shirt off of their back without a second thought. For these individuals, the selfless quality of their personality type is genuine and pure. ESFJs who have not had the advantage of developing their own values by weighing them against a good external value system may develop very questionable values. In such cases, the ESFJ most often genuinely believes in the integrity of their skewed value system. They have no internal understanding of values to set them straight. In weighing their values against our society, they find plenty of support for whatever moral transgression they wish to justify. This type of ESFJ is a dangerous person indeed. Extraverted Feeling drives them to control and manipulate, and their lack of Intuition prevents them from seeing the big picture. They're usually quite popular and good with people, and good at manipulating them. Unlike their ENFJ cousin, they don't have Intuition to help them understand the real consequences of their actions. They are driven to manipulate other to achieve their own ends, yet they believe that they are following a solid moral code of conduct.

All ESFJs have a natural tendency to want to control their environment. Their dominant function demands structure and organization, and seeks closure. ESFJs are most comfortable with structured environments. They're not likely to enjoy having to do things which involve abstract, theoretical concepts, or impersonal analysis. They do enjoy creating order and structure, and are very good at tasks which require these kinds of skills. ESFJs should be careful about controling people in their lives who do not wish to be controlled.

ESFJs respect and believe in the laws and rules of authority, and believe that others should do so as well. They're traditional, and prefer to do things in the established way, rather than venturing into unchartered territory. Their need for security drives their ready acceptance and adherence to the policies of the established system. This tendency may cause them to sometimes blindly accept rules without questioning or understanding them.

An ESFJ who has developed in a less than ideal way may be prone to being quite insecure, and focus all of their attention on pleasing others. He or she might also be very controling, or overly sensitive, imagining bad intentions when there weren't any.

ESFJs incorporate many of the traits that are associated with women in our society. However, male ESFJs will usually not appear feminine at all. On the contrary, ESFJs are typically quite conscious about gender roles and will be most comfortable playing a role that suits their gender in our society. Male ESFJs will be quite masculine (albeit sensitive when you get to know them), and female ESFJs will be very feminine.

ESFJs at their best are warm, sympathetic, helpful, cooperative, tactful, down-to-earth, practical, thorough, consistent, organized, enthusiastic, and energetic. They enjoy tradition and security, and will seek stable lives that are rich in contact with friends and family.



INTP

The Thinker


As an INTP, your primary mode of living is focused internally, where you deal with things rationally and logically. Your secondary mode is external, where you take things in primarily via your intuition.

INTPs live in the world of theoretical possibilities. They see everything in terms of how it could be improved, or what it could be turned into. They live primarily inside their own minds, having the ability to analyze difficult problems, identify patterns, and come up with logical explanations. They seek clarity in everything, and are therefore driven to build knowledge. They are the "absent-minded professors", who highly value intelligence and the ability to apply logic to theories to find solutions. They typically are so strongly driven to turn problems into logical explanations, that they live much of their lives within their own heads, and may not place as much importance or value on the external world. Their natural drive to turn theories into concrete understanding may turn into a feeling of personal responsibility to solve theoretical problems, and help society move towards a higher understanding.

INTPs value knowledge above all else. Their minds are constantly working to generate new theories, or to prove or disprove existing theories. They approach problems and theories with enthusiasm and skepticism, ignoring existing rules and opinions and defining their own approach to the resolution. They seek patterns and logical explanations for anything that interests them. They're usually extremely bright, and able to be objectively critical in their analysis. They love new ideas, and become very excited over abstractions and theories. They love to discuss these concepts with others. They may seem "dreamy" and distant to others, because they spend a lot of time inside their minds musing over theories. They hate to work on routine things - they would much prefer to build complex theoretical solutions, and leave the implementation of the system to others. They are intensely interested in theory, and will put forth tremendous amounts of time and energy into finding a solution to a problem with has piqued their interest.

INTPs do not like to lead or control people. They're very tolerant and flexible in most situations, unless one of their firmly held beliefs has been violated or challenged, in which case they may take a very rigid stance. The INTP is likely to be very shy when it comes to meeting new people. On the other hand, the INTP is very self-confident and gregarious around people they know well, or when discussing theories which they fully understand.

The INTP has no understanding or value for decisions made on the basis of personal subjectivity or feelings. They strive constantly to achieve logical conclusions to problems, and don't understand the importance or relevance of applying subjective emotional considerations to decisions. For this reason, INTPs are usually not in-tune with how people are feeling, and are not naturally well-equiped to meet the emotional needs of others.

The INTP may have a problem with self-aggrandizement and social rebellion, which will interfere with their creative potential. Since their Feeling side is their least developed trait, the INTP may have difficulty giving the warmth and support that is sometimes necessary in intimate relationships. If the INTP doesn't realize the value of attending to other people's feelings, he or she may become overly critical and sarcastic with others. If the INTP is not able to find a place for themself which supports the use of their strongest abilities, they may become generally negative and cynical. If the INTP has not developed their Sensing side sufficiently, they may become unaware of their environment, and exhibit weakness in performing maintenance-type tasks, such as bill-paying and dressing appropriately.

For the INTP, it is extremely important that ideas and facts are expressed correctly and succinctly. They are likely to express themselves in what they believe to be absolute truths. Sometimes, their well thought-out understanding of an idea is not easily understandable by others, but the INTP is not naturally likely to tailor the truth so as to explain it in an understandable way to others. The INTP may be prone to abandoning a project once they have figured it out, moving on to the next thing. It's important that the INTP place importance on expressing their developed theories in understandable ways. In the end, an amazing discovery means nothing if you are the only person who understands it.

The INTP is usually very independent, unconventional, and original. They are not likely to place much value on traditional goals such as popularity and security. They usually have complex characters, and may tend to be restless and temperamental. They are strongly ingenious, and have unconventional thought patterns which allows them to analyze ideas in new ways. Consequently, a lot of scientific breakthroughs in the world have been made by the INTP.

The INTP is at his best when he can work on his theories independently. When given an environment which supports his creative genius and possible eccentricity, the INTP can accomplish truly remarkable things. These are the pioneers of new thoughts in our society.





suda forumdaki kisilerin test sonuclari
http://forum.paticik.com/read.php?13,5636184,page=1

her ankette oldugu gibi kisinin dogru cevaplamasina bakiyor ancak dataya bakinca patide INTJ nin baskin oldugunu goruyoruz, INTJ nin tipik muhendis tipolojisi oldugunu dusunursek muhendis dolu olan su forumda bu sonuclar cok ucuk diil

gerci millet daha cok hangi unlu ile yakinim kismi ile ilgilenmis -_-
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ehe. bitirdim ben şimdi de. nagase hanım baydı hakikaten.

dereban ne demek lan diyen olabilir. böyleymiş. di mi.

said:
Tsun"dere" dere being kind/close to others, the opposite of tsun.


hem

örtüşmeyen şeyler var. iori taichiyi çabuk aştı.

taichi ben gerçek seni bilmiyorum falan bi ton ayar çekti sonra arkasına bakmadan inabaya koştu. sonra iyi ki sevmişize bağladılar hop bitti.

neyse oh inaba mutlu biz mutluyuz




bi de viktor sağolsun arada intp olduk çıktık. bu türün tembelini bulursanız kaçın arkadaş. benden duymuş olmayın ama çok leş insanlar.
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INTP ler çalışkan olsalardı zaten dunyayı ele gecırırlerdı asdfsfd

INTJ ler calıskan versıyonlar ama P nın getırdıgı o wisdom olmadığından olmıyor, işin dengesi bu zaten, biri kompleks sistemleri kavrayıp teoriler uretebılıyor, oburu ılkının yarattıgı teorılerı uygulamaya dokebılıyor

thinker vs architect
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