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Yılmazlar Tekstil Sunar : Playoff 2008-2009


Öne çıkan mesajlar

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orlando mükemmel oynadı denmiş ama ben pek katılmıyorum nedense. maçın 3. çeyreğinde fark hala 10 ken dedimki eğer bu kadar kötü oynayıp sadece dwight sayesinde fark 10u geçmediyse bu seriyi götürür orlando dedim. bi de orlando 90.sayıyı atında dedim kesin alacak orlando çünkü cavsın 90+ yediği her maç yenilgi riski taşıyor. benchten gelen sayılar zaten az. bir önceki serinin 2 maçı hariç zaten 10-15 civarı sayı geliyo son 3 maçtıur benchten. e zaten lebron 50 attı daha ne yapıcak. ortalama bu seride 36 fln atsa. 51 sayı etti. mo williams 14 delonte 14 ilgauskas da 10 atsa zaten anca 89 sayı oluyor. dolayısıyla orlandonun 90ı geçeceği her maç cavsın yüzde 70 kaybetmesi demek.
3.çeyreğin ortasından 4. çeyreğin sonuna kadar çok konsantre oynadığını kabul ediyorum magicin ama bunu maça yayamadılar. ucundan kaybedebiyorlardı zaten.

yanlız orlando da sahasında zayıf bir takım. 2 maçtan en azından 1ini vermesi normal. tahminim de öyle olur. dolayısıyla bu saha avantajı da kaybolur bence. 7.maçı görebiliriz diyorum ama en kötü 4-2.


edit: playofflarda iki maç üst üste 12den fazla asisti forvetler arasında en son geçen sene lebron yapmış. hidayet yapmış oldu şimdi=)
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20 dakika sonra Lakers - Denver maçı başlıyor. Denver bu sefer vermez maçı. Verirse zaten seri bitmiştir. O yüzden çok agresif oynayacaklar ve Lakers'ı maçtan erken koparmaya çalışacaklar. İlk maçta da bunu denediler. Salladılar ama yıkamadılar. Lakers üstlerine yıkıldı. Bu sefer jr smith, birdman falan iyi oynamaları lazım.

Kahrolsun popülist, kapitalist Kobe - Lebron finali. Yaşasın Orlando - Denver finali!
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Can Cavaliers stop Magic's 'Really Big Three'?

By Rob Peterson, NBA.com
Posted May 21 2009 5:37PM

CLEVELAND -- About midway through the fourth quarter of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals, Orlando's Hedo Turkoglu -- thanks to a switch on a pick-and-roll -- found himself guarded by the Cavs' Delonte West at the top of the key.

The 6-foot-10 Magic forward didn't so much look down at the 6-foot-3 West, but instead Turkoglu looked over West and made eye contact with the 6-foot-11 Dwight Howard on the low blocks. Turkoglu, using his seven-inch height advantage, casually threw the ball over West and up toward the rim and toward Howard, who flushed it home for an easy two.

This play didn't change the game, but it did underscore the distinct advantage the Magic have over the Cavs -- Howard's athleticism in the post and Turkoglu's versatility from, well, anywhere. Combine those two and add the 6-foot-10 Rashard Lewis' ability to stretch the defense with his outside shooting, and the Orlando Magic just don't have a Big Three, but a Really Big Three.

The Philadelphia 76ers succumbed to them in the first round. The defending champion Boston Celtics were hurt by them -- namely in Game 7 -- in the conference semis. And in the second half of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals, the previously unbeaten-in-the-postseason Cleveland Cavaliers found out first hand the damage Orlando's magical frontcourt triumvirate could do.

Orlando's Really Big Three combined to score 67 of the Magic's 107 points, grab 26 of Orlando's 36 boards and dish 18 of their 32 assists as the Magic stormed back from a 15-point second half deficit to stun the Cavs 107-106 and take a 1-0 series lead.

Save for LeBron James' incredible stat line -- 49 points, eight assists and six rebounds -- the Cavaliers didn't have an answer for the Magic's three best players.

"Obviously Dwight was a monster in that low post tonight," Mike Brown said. "The combination of them playing the pick-and-roll game and executing very well in the pick-and-roll game and Dwight on the low post hurt us.

"We have to go back and watch the tape and figure out what we want to do."

When the Cavs want to do and what they can do may be two different things, namely because of the versatile Turkoglu. While Lewis, like most shooters, can go cold at times and Howard's offense in the post -- despite scoring a team-high 30 in Game 1 -- is still suspect, Turkoglu's skill set remains a constant upon which the Magic can rely.

Turkoglu won't shrink. He'll still be 6-10 for Game 2 and will be able to see over most anyone the Cavs put on him. He may throw an errant pass or two, but as his career-high (regular season or postseason) 14 assists in Game 1 attest, Turkoglu's playmaking and court vision won't desert him. And if the Cavs' dare sag off him to take away passing lanes or to help on Howard in the post or Lewis on the wing, Turkoglu can nail a three as he did at 5:07 of the fourth quarter to give the Magic a 93-90 lead.

"That was a big shot for us," Lewis said.

While some have wondered whether the Magic will be able to find a guy like James or Boston's Paul Pierce that they could turn to time and time again to get bucket after bucket down the stretch, the Magic have turned to Turkoglu to be their man in the final 12 minutes.

But unlike James, Turkoglu's not going to bang a string of step-back jumpers or runners. He's going to act like another tall Magic man -- Magic Johnson, that is. Turkoglu has started to become Orlando's facilitator, distributor and orchestrator of the Magic offense. Instead of relying on one guy to carry them home, the Magic have been trusting Turkoglu to make the right decisions. And he's been making them at the right time.

Much like he did in the series clincher against the Celtics when he had 12 assists, Turkoglu turned the fourth quarter of Game 1 against the Cavs into his personal showcase.

He had assists on the first five Magic buckets. Then he scored the Magic's next five points. Then another assist. Then he made four straight free throws. And finally, he made the pass to Lewis on his game-winning three. With the exception of a Mickael Pietrus free throw and a Lewis jumper on which Rafer Alston assisted, Turkoglu had a hand in 26 of the Magic's 29 fourth quarter points.

After entering the fourth quarter with six points and seven assists, Turkoglu finished with 15 points and 14 dimes. It was a performance James, who's not too shabby himself when it comes to all-around play, could appreciate.

"He had a really all-around solid game," James said. "He adjusts in the second half and found some things that helped them win the game."

Now, it's up to the Cavs to make adjustments to Turkoglu and the Magic for Game 2.

"We can't give them the same diet the entire night," Cavs coach Brown said. "We will have to change up because they are too good of a team and they will be able to get a rhythm and pick up on some things."

Meanwhile, the Cavs will also need to get more from the rest of the Cavs. Mo Williams pointed to the Really Big Three's performance as a litmus test for his own. Williams had 17 points, but it took him 19 shots and three made free throws to get there.

"I think the biggest key -- the key -- to this game was me," Williams said. "I have to take pressure off [LeBron]. I'm looking at the stats and I'm looking at Dwight and I'm looking at Rashard and I'm looking at Hedo, and those three guys were terrific."

That they were. And if the Cavs can't find a way to stop them, they could be terrific deep into June.

Mesaj tarihi:
iyi olmuş inşallah denver kazanır. Kobe'yi hiç sevmem . Bu senede final'e cıkamazsa lakers dağılır bence. Pepsi Center zaten herkesin cekindiği bir yer. Yüksekliğinden dolayı orda yaşamaya alışmayan oyuncular nefes almakta zorlanıyorlarmışmış
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Spidee said:
NBA'in sitesindeki şu yazıyı da paylaşmak istedim, yere göğe sığdıramamışlar Hido'yu.


Can Cavaliers stop Magic's 'Really Big Three'?

By Rob Peterson, NBA.com
Posted May 21 2009 5:37PM

CLEVELAND -- About midway through the fourth quarter of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals, Orlando's Hedo Turkoglu -- thanks to a switch on a pick-and-roll -- found himself guarded by the Cavs' Delonte West at the top of the key.

The 6-foot-10 Magic forward didn't so much look down at the 6-foot-3 West, but instead Turkoglu looked over West and made eye contact with the 6-foot-11 Dwight Howard on the low blocks. Turkoglu, using his seven-inch height advantage, casually threw the ball over West and up toward the rim and toward Howard, who flushed it home for an easy two.

This play didn't change the game, but it did underscore the distinct advantage the Magic have over the Cavs -- Howard's athleticism in the post and Turkoglu's versatility from, well, anywhere. Combine those two and add the 6-foot-10 Rashard Lewis' ability to stretch the defense with his outside shooting, and the Orlando Magic just don't have a Big Three, but a Really Big Three.

The Philadelphia 76ers succumbed to them in the first round. The defending champion Boston Celtics were hurt by them -- namely in Game 7 -- in the conference semis. And in the second half of Game 1 of the Eastern Conference finals, the previously unbeaten-in-the-postseason Cleveland Cavaliers found out first hand the damage Orlando's magical frontcourt triumvirate could do.

Orlando's Really Big Three combined to score 67 of the Magic's 107 points, grab 26 of Orlando's 36 boards and dish 18 of their 32 assists as the Magic stormed back from a 15-point second half deficit to stun the Cavs 107-106 and take a 1-0 series lead.

Save for LeBron James' incredible stat line -- 49 points, eight assists and six rebounds -- the Cavaliers didn't have an answer for the Magic's three best players.

"Obviously Dwight was a monster in that low post tonight," Mike Brown said. "The combination of them playing the pick-and-roll game and executing very well in the pick-and-roll game and Dwight on the low post hurt us.

"We have to go back and watch the tape and figure out what we want to do."

When the Cavs want to do and what they can do may be two different things, namely because of the versatile Turkoglu. While Lewis, like most shooters, can go cold at times and Howard's offense in the post -- despite scoring a team-high 30 in Game 1 -- is still suspect, Turkoglu's skill set remains a constant upon which the Magic can rely.

Turkoglu won't shrink. He'll still be 6-10 for Game 2 and will be able to see over most anyone the Cavs put on him. He may throw an errant pass or two, but as his career-high (regular season or postseason) 14 assists in Game 1 attest, Turkoglu's playmaking and court vision won't desert him. And if the Cavs' dare sag off him to take away passing lanes or to help on Howard in the post or Lewis on the wing, Turkoglu can nail a three as he did at 5:07 of the fourth quarter to give the Magic a 93-90 lead.

"That was a big shot for us," Lewis said.

While some have wondered whether the Magic will be able to find a guy like James or Boston's Paul Pierce that they could turn to time and time again to get bucket after bucket down the stretch, the Magic have turned to Turkoglu to be their man in the final 12 minutes.

But unlike James, Turkoglu's not going to bang a string of step-back jumpers or runners. He's going to act like another tall Magic man -- Magic Johnson, that is. Turkoglu has started to become Orlando's facilitator, distributor and orchestrator of the Magic offense. Instead of relying on one guy to carry them home, the Magic have been trusting Turkoglu to make the right decisions. And he's been making them at the right time.

Much like he did in the series clincher against the Celtics when he had 12 assists, Turkoglu turned the fourth quarter of Game 1 against the Cavs into his personal showcase.

He had assists on the first five Magic buckets. Then he scored the Magic's next five points. Then another assist. Then he made four straight free throws. And finally, he made the pass to Lewis on his game-winning three. With the exception of a Mickael Pietrus free throw and a Lewis jumper on which Rafer Alston assisted, Turkoglu had a hand in 26 of the Magic's 29 fourth quarter points.

After entering the fourth quarter with six points and seven assists, Turkoglu finished with 15 points and 14 dimes. It was a performance James, who's not too shabby himself when it comes to all-around play, could appreciate.

"He had a really all-around solid game," James said. "He adjusts in the second half and found some things that helped them win the game."

Now, it's up to the Cavs to make adjustments to Turkoglu and the Magic for Game 2.

"We can't give them the same diet the entire night," Cavs coach Brown said. "We will have to change up because they are too good of a team and they will be able to get a rhythm and pick up on some things."

Meanwhile, the Cavs will also need to get more from the rest of the Cavs. Mo Williams pointed to the Really Big Three's performance as a litmus test for his own. Williams had 17 points, but it took him 19 shots and three made free throws to get there.

"I think the biggest key -- the key -- to this game was me," Williams said. "I have to take pressure off [LeBron]. I'm looking at the stats and I'm looking at Dwight and I'm looking at Rashard and I'm looking at Hedo, and those three guys were terrific."

That they were. And if the Cavs can't find a way to stop them, they could be terrific deep into June.



evet oha dedim bende, cok guzel yazmıs. magic johnson a benzetmis falan ...
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Masticore said:
iyi olmuş inşallah denver kazanır. Kobe'yi hiç sevmem . Bu senede final'e cıkamazsa lakers dağılır bence. Pepsi Center zaten herkesin cekindiği bir yer. Yüksekliğinden dolayı orda yaşamaya alışmayan oyuncular nefes almakta zorlanıyorlarmışmış


Abicim logoda dağ var diye Erzurum yapmayın Colorado'yu.

Ha dağ olsada farketmez,Kobe dağ bayır çayır affetmez.Benim de gönlümden geçen Denver fakat Nuggets ne kadar iyi oynarsa oynasın sınır parametreleri Kobe'nin finali ne kadar isteyip,istemediği
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denverin sahasindaki rakim cok yuksek oldugu icin fazla oksijen varmis, o yuzden de en kotu deplasman hep denvermis
hatta kaan kural demisti galiba
bi efsane kadrosu varmis denver in it gibi kosuyolarmis sadece ve inanilmaz yuksek tempoda oynuyolarmis, kimse yenemiyomus onlari evlerinde cunku kimse nefes alamiyomus dogru duzgun
hatta gecenlerde arjantin bolivya maciydi sanirim bolivyanin sahasinda rakim cok yuksekmis messi falan kosamadi 6-2 aldi bolivya
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can said:
denverin sahasindaki rakim cok yuksek oldugu icin fazla oksijen varmis, o yuzden de en kotu deplasman hep denvermis
hatta kaan kural demisti galiba
bi efsane kadrosu varmis denver in it gibi kosuyolarmis sadece ve inanilmaz yuksek tempoda oynuyolarmis, kimse yenemiyomus onlari evlerinde cunku kimse nefes alamiyomus dogru duzgun
hatta gecenlerde arjantin bolivya maciydi sanirim bolivyanin sahasinda rakim cok yuksekmis messi falan kosamadi 6-2 aldi bolivya


Denver'ın efsane olduğu yıllar mı varmış =]

Pepsi Center Denver'da,Colorado'nun en düşük rakımlı yeri hani sonuçta çok teknolojik ve yeni de bir salon,ayarlarlar basıncı böyle bir parametre söz konusuysa.Bolivya tam rezillik zaten onu geçin eheh
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BulletRide said:
Masticore said:
iyi olmuş inşallah denver kazanır. Kobe'yi hiç sevmem . Bu senede final'e cıkamazsa lakers dağılır bence. Pepsi Center zaten herkesin cekindiği bir yer. Yüksekliğinden dolayı orda yaşamaya alışmayan oyuncular nefes almakta zorlanıyorlarmışmış


Abicim logoda dağ var diye Erzurum yapmayın Colorado'yu.

Ha dağ olsada farketmez,Kobe dağ bayır çayır affetmez.Benim de gönlümden geçen Denver fakat Nuggets ne kadar iyi oynarsa oynasın sınır parametreleri Kobe'nin finali ne kadar isteyip,istemediği


yüksekliklerden haberim yok ama erzurum yaptın dediğin yer amerikanın en yüksek eyaleti. Bırak fark etsin. allstars zamanı iverson'un konuşmalarını hatirliyorum orada. Daha önce bu kadar yoruldugumu hatirlamiyorum diye.

Herşeyi kobe'ye bağladın sende :) . İstese ne olcak tanrımı bu adam.

Yani artık göreceğiz. Müthiş bir kadroları var sakatları yok . Sağlam bir Tracy McGrady olsaydı rokets'ide gecerlermiydi orasıda muamma. Ama houston'a karsı oynadiklari gibi oynarlarsa işleri zor
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şimdi bir açıklık getirelim

5280 feet 1610 metre yaklaşık Pepsi center
The average elevation of Erzurum, Turkey is 1913 meters.
1800 lerde şehir merkezi Erzurum.

alışmayan adamı yüksek rakım çok zorlar. Zaten atletler yüksek yerlere bu oksijeni taşıyan şeyler neydi işte onları geliştirmek için gider antrenman yaparlar.

Sonuç olarak Denver kazanır seriyi inşallah =)
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can said:
bi efsane kadrosu varmis denver in it gibi kosuyolarmis sadece ve inanilmaz yuksek tempoda oynuyolarmis, kimse yenemiyomus onlari evlerinde cunku kimse nefes alamiyomus dogru duzgun

Dikembe Mutombo'nun olduğu 93-94 yılları mı acaba?
Bu arada 40 dakika sonra Magics-Lebron, pardon insanlar-yaratık savaşı tekrar başlıyor:)
Denver-Orlando finali olur da Hido yüzüğü takarsa süper olur, Mehmet'inki gibi beleşten bir yüzükte olmaz bu.
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mokoko said:
şurda mo will e çalınmayan teknik faul hakemlerin clevland a olan bakışını sergiliyor sanırım.


abi ayıptır emek hırsızlığı resmen ya.
inanın müminler, şüphesiz orlando bu maçı da alacaktır.
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